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 What Is Your Disability For Ischemic Heart Disease (currently 1 views) |
| DocMosher |
| Posted on: January 28th, 2013, 6:38pm |
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I have talked to several vets who have a rated disability for Ischemic Heart Disease and it seems that everyone's disability is at a different rating. I have heard from 30% to 100%. If you don't mind, would you please post your rating for Ischemic Heart Disease?
Thanks,
Doc Mosher |
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| Eddie"Duke"Ellington |
| Posted on: January 28th, 2013, 8:50pm |
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Minimum Member Alpha- 3rd Bn/ 21st Inf 196 LIB 3/69-3/70
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Doc, Seems that mine is 30%.
Hope this helps.
Duke A/3/21 69 |
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| DocMosher |
| Posted on: January 28th, 2013, 9:25pm |
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Thanks, Duke. Mine is 60%. Don't know why I have that much more than you, but I know people with 100%!!
-Doc |
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| Frenchie |
| Posted on: January 29th, 2013, 3:37am |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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| Doc, i dont have that disability but is it possible that the 100% includes more than one disability combined ? IE: heart + ptsd+PH injury = 100% |
Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian
C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69
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| carlfryman |
| Posted on: January 29th, 2013, 3:53pm |
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Frenchie,
I had a heart attack in 2004 and bypass surgery in 2009 and was given a 30% rating. There are guys on this website that have never had either, just stents, that were given a 60% rating. I certainly don't understand that and have considered an appeal. Just don't want to deal with the hassle. The VA loves guys like me!!!!
Carl Fryman
C 2/1
11/67 - 11/68 |
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| Gregory B Peters |
| Posted on: January 30th, 2013, 1:07am |
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Maximum Member2 B company, 3/21/196th, incountry 07/1966-07/1967
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Hi All, below is two articles. Most I know have 10%. Carl, your rating might be based on what happened before they added IHD, or it wasn't the cause of your attack. but you are right the VA does love you, so file an appeal :-)
The symptoms that the VA is looking for are dyspnea (shortness of breath), fatigue, angina (chest pain), dizziness, or syncope (fainting). You need not have all of these symptoms to qualify for a particular rating, but it is important to know what the possible symptoms are so that you can inform your doctors, and the VA, if you are having these symptoms.
Only a minimum rating of 10% is appropriate where the veteran experiences these symptoms after doing activities such as jogging , biking or climbing stairs quickly (a level of 7-10 METs). A higher rating of 30% is warranted where the veteran experiences the symptoms at a level of 5-7 METs. This level of activity would include heavy yard work such as digging or mowing with a pushmower and would also include recreational activities such as golfing without a cart. The 30% rating would also be appropriate where the veteran has certain test results on an electrocardiogram, echocardiogram, or X–ray, so, again, it is important to make sure that the VA is aware of these tests if you have had them performed by a non-VA doctor.
A higher rating of 60% is assigned where the veteran experiences heart symptoms at a less stringent level of exercise such as brisk walking or light yard work including weeding or mowing the lawn with a power mower (a level of 3-5 METs). A 60% rating would also be appropriate for a veteran who has had more than one episode of acute congestive heart failure in the past year.
Finally, a total rating of 100% would be the appropriate rating where the veteran experiences the symptoms of heart disease at a minimal level of exercise such as slow walking for one or two blocks, showering, dressing or eating (1-3 METs). The 100% rating would also be assigned to a veteran who has chronic congestive heart failure.
Another factor the VA will consider, outside the symptoms the veteran is experiencing, is whether the veteran has had any procedures performed on his heart which might qualify him or her for a higher rating, at least temporarily. Procedures such as heart valve replacement, coronary bypass surgery, cardiac transplant surgery, or implantation of a pacemaker require the VA to assign a temporary 100% disability rating for a period of months or sometimes indefinitely.
Finally, as with rating most disabilities, the VA must also consider whether the veteran’s heart disease prevents the veteran from maintaining employment. Knowing the symptoms of heart disease allows you to keep your doctors informed if you are having these symptoms. In addition, if your doctor is aware of your symptoms and documents them in your medical records, this makes it easier for the VA to assign the proper rating for your disability.
http://www.hillandponton.com/2012/07/disability-ratings-for-heart-disease/
from one article:
the VA assumes that veterans with Parkinson’s disease or for B-cell leukemia will be awarded a 100-percent disability ratings. The average rating for ischemic heart diseases is expected to be 60 percent. In calculating VA costs from this change, VA assumes that 80 percent of the eligible population will apply for benefits and 100 percent of those who do will be approved. But eligible vets and suvivors must file claims to get paid; nothing will happen automatically. To file claims online visit: http://vabenefits.vba.va.gov/vonapp/main.asp. Veterans without a computer can call a toll-free helpline at 1-800-749-8387. |
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| Gregory B Peters |
| Posted on: January 30th, 2013, 1:12am |
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Maximum Member2 B company, 3/21/196th, incountry 07/1966-07/1967
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Frenchie, it is called VA math :-)
Where things become really confusing is when a veteran suffers from two or more service connected disabilities which must be combined according to the VA Combined Ratings Table. Using what many veterans refer to as “VA Math,” under the Combined Ratings Table, two 50% disability ratings do not add up to a 100% rating as most people would expect. Rather, two 50% disabilities are combined to give a veteran a 75% disability rating ( which would then be rounded up to an 80% disability rating).
The justification for this combination is that once a veteran’s ability to work is 50% impaired by a disability, any other disability ratings are applied only to the remaining, unimpaired 50%. In other words, the second 50% disability rating applies only to the 50% of the veteran’s ability to work that is not already impaired. 50% of 50% is only 25%, so the additional impairment only adds 25% to the veteran’s overall disability rating. So this veteran who has two, service –connected disabilities with a 50% disability rating for each is entitled only to an 80% disability rating which will pay him only $1427.00. Again, here, $1427 is not 80% of the $2673.00 that the veteran with a 100% disability rating receives. The veteran with the 80% disability rating receives just over half the amount that the veteran with the 100% disability receives. |
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| Frenchie |
| Posted on: January 30th, 2013, 1:25am |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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Frenchie, it is called VA math :-)
Where things become really confusing is when a veteran suffers from two or more service connected disabilities which must be combined according to the VA Combined Ratings Table. Using what many veterans refer to as “VA Math,” |
Greg Peters:
i have experienced VA math...i forget my numbers ...but combined they total say 50% but
VA Math changes it to 45 or maybe even 40 (i forgot). |
Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian
C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69
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| carlfryman |
| Posted on: January 30th, 2013, 4:51am |
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I have 3 disabilities that add up to 60% but get paid only at 50%. I think the VA fell off the fiscal cliff. Frenchie, my heart attack and 4 bypasses were the result of ischemic artery disease. I had letters from my primary care physican and my cardiologist. It isn't set in stone like diabetes is. If you have a sugar problem, it's 10% without meds and 20% if medication is required but not the same with artery disease. There is no damage to my heart. The cardiologist said it's only in the artery.
Carl Fryman
C 2/1
11/67 - 11/68 |
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| Larry D Mcknight |
| Posted on: January 30th, 2013, 12:48pm |
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Doc, I get 10%, because they can't do a cath on me. I only have one kidney and it is in stage 3 failure and they are afraid the iodine will cause it to completey fail. I had a heart attack sometime between 2007 and 2010 according to two different stress test.. The VA says that they can't determine how bad mine is without the cath or surgury so I ended up with 10%.
Carlfryman, They done the silly math on me to. I am rated 60%, but only get 50%. |
Larry D. Mcknight
B Co., HHC S-4 2/1
1965 to 1967 |
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| Gregory B Peters |
| Posted on: January 31st, 2013, 1:18am |
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Maximum Member2 B company, 3/21/196th, incountry 07/1966-07/1967
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there you go Carl, you are so healthy after the bypass that you run 7-10 mets on the scale, so live long and prosper :-)
Ken, sorry to read about the kidneys, is the renal failure part of Agent Orange?
I had the chloracne and neuropathy real bad, but gone except for scars by the time the AO registry came out. My cancer and liver were not attributed to AO either. My poor father was not as lucky, he had the double whammy of being an Atomic Vet after WWII, and then AO in Korea and Vietnam. Did not die pretty......
Greg |
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| Larry D Mcknight |
| Posted on: January 31st, 2013, 10:17am |
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Greg, The examiner at the VA put in his report that I was at 3 - 5 mets, but the VA says that wasn't due to a heart problem but to my lung injury. I have schrapnel in my left lung in which I receive 20%, so I guess I am stuck at 10% unless I have a major heart attack in which I hope I never have.
I filed for renal cancer and renal failure, but was told it wasn't on the AO list. |
Larry D. Mcknight
B Co., HHC S-4 2/1
1965 to 1967 |
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| Eddie"Duke"Ellington |
| Posted on: January 31st, 2013, 7:19pm |
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| Doc, I have a total of 80%, 20% diabetes, 30% PTSD and 30% the Ischemic Heart Disease. |
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| Teacher |
| Posted on: February 4th, 2013, 2:11am |
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| When I filed my claim for IHD, I took my current stress test results from my heart Dr. Received a 60% rating within 6 months. |
Don Campbell B co. 2/1 8-70-8-71 |
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| DocMosher |
| Posted on: February 9th, 2013, 7:30pm |
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As I understand VA math, you begin with 100% ABILITY. Then if you're granted a 60% DISABILITY, you have 40% ABILITY left. Then if you get another disability rating, it is deducted from you ABILITY, then added to your DISABILITY. This means that with the 40% that you have left, and you get an additional 30% rating, you multiply the 30% times your 40% (left-over) ABILITY and get 7%. Then the VA rounds that up to 10% and adds that to your DISABILITY giving you a 70% disability.
So if using using VA math and you have have a rating, for example, of 80% (10%-30%-60%), it looks like you can never reach 100%! VA math means that if you have an 80% rating, and the VA grants you 20% additional (for whatever), that means 20% X 20% (the amount left after taking 100% minus your 80% disability) = 4%. IF they round up (and they might not round up since it's under 5%), that gives you 90%!!
If you have an 80% rating, and you somehow are given an additional 50% (again for whatever), 50% X 20% (that's what is left after deducting 80% from 100%) = 10% giving you a 90% rating!
So can you ever get to 100%?
-Doc |
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