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Message:	[quote by=Doc_Mosher link=Blah.pl?b=VA,m=1359398322,s=0 date=1359398322]I have talked to several vets who have a rated disability for Ischemic Heart Disease and it seems that everyone's disability is at a different rating. I have heard from 30% to 100%. If you don't mind, would you please post your rating for Ischemic Heart Disease? Thanks, Doc Mosher[/quote]
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Posted by: Gregory B Peters

Date Posted: February 16th, 2013, 4:17pm

Yes, I see your point Doc. The odds of coming up with another diagnosis that would be rated 100% of the left over 40% are slim and you still wouldn't reach a true 100%, leaving the only option of a true 100% is if your original Ischemic disease getting worse and then you would have to re-file on your original claim. But if your original diagnosis worsens to 100%, then that is no good either with such a poor prognosis.

I'd say the VA had some pretty good accountants when they figured all this out. I wonder if they would help me with my taxes :-)

Greg

Posted by: DocMosher

Date Posted: February 11th, 2013, 12:59am

Hi Greg,

Yes, but I understand it is not considered a 'true' 100%. Be that as it may, I applied for unemployability and was denied. :(

Posted by: Gregory B Peters

Date Posted: February 10th, 2013, 5:47pm

Hi Doc, I think yes you can get a true 100% but only if your employment is jeopardized!
So if you got a 60% now, and get another 30%, you move up to 70% But the only reason you got the 30% on the second claim to start with is because you are still able to work. that second 30% is not significantly interfering. But if you file with a new disability that now wipes you out of work, then you would be upgraded to 100%. Same if you refile on an old one Like Carly, that wipes you out of work, the rating will change to 100%.

Greg

Posted by: DocMosher

Date Posted: February 9th, 2013, 7:30pm

As I understand VA math, you begin with 100% ABILITY. Then if you're granted a 60% DISABILITY, you have 40% ABILITY left. Then if you get another disability rating, it is deducted from you ABILITY, then added to your DISABILITY. This means that with the 40% that you have left, and you get an additional 30% rating, you multiply the 30% times your 40% (left-over) ABILITY and get 7%. Then the VA rounds that up to 10% and adds that to your DISABILITY giving you a 70% disability.

So if using using VA math and you have have a rating, for example, of 80% (10%-30%-60%), it looks like you can never reach 100%! VA math means that if you have an 80% rating, and the VA grants you 20% additional (for whatever), that means 20% X 20% (the amount left after taking 100% minus your 80% disability) = 4%. IF they round up (and they might not round up since it's under 5%), that gives you 90%!!

If you have an 80% rating, and you somehow are given an addition ...

Posted by: Teacher

Date Posted: February 4th, 2013, 2:11am

When I filed my claim for IHD, I took my current stress test results from my heart Dr. Received a 60% rating within 6 months.

Posted by: Eddie"Duke"Ellington

Date Posted: January 31st, 2013, 7:19pm

Doc, I have a total of 80%, 20% diabetes, 30% PTSD and 30% the Ischemic Heart Disease.

Posted by: Larry D Mcknight

Date Posted: January 31st, 2013, 10:17am

Greg, The examiner at the VA put in his report that I was at 3 - 5 mets, but the VA says that wasn't due to a heart problem but to my lung injury. I have schrapnel in my left lung in which I receive 20%, so I guess I am stuck at 10% unless I have a major heart attack in which I hope I never have.

I filed for renal cancer and renal failure, but was told it wasn't on the AO list.

Posted by: Gregory B Peters

Date Posted: January 31st, 2013, 1:18am

there you go Carl, you are so healthy after the bypass that you run 7-10 mets on the scale, so live long and prosper :-)

Ken, sorry to read about the kidneys, is the renal failure part of Agent Orange?

I had the chloracne and neuropathy real bad, but gone except for scars by the time the AO registry came out. My cancer and liver were not attributed to AO either. My poor father was not as lucky, he had the double whammy of being an Atomic Vet after WWII, and then AO in Korea and Vietnam. Did not die pretty......

Greg

Posted by: Larry D Mcknight

Date Posted: January 30th, 2013, 12:48pm

Doc, I get 10%, because they can't do a cath on me. I only have one kidney and it is in stage 3 failure and they are afraid the iodine will cause it to completey fail. I had a heart attack sometime between 2007 and 2010 according to two different stress test.. The VA says that they can't determine how bad mine is without the cath or surgury so I ended up with 10%.
Carlfryman, They done the silly math on me to. I am rated 60%, but only get 50%.

Posted by: carlfryman

Date Posted: January 30th, 2013, 4:51am

I have 3 disabilities that add up to 60% but get paid only at 50%. I think the VA fell off the fiscal cliff. Frenchie, my heart attack and 4 bypasses were the result of ischemic artery disease. I had letters from my primary care physican and my cardiologist. It isn't set in stone like diabetes is. If you have a sugar problem, it's 10% without meds and 20% if medication is required but not the same with artery disease. There is no damage to my heart. The cardiologist said it's only in the artery.

Carl Fryman
C 2/1
11/67 - 11/68

Posted by: Frenchie

Date Posted: January 30th, 2013, 1:25am

Quoted from Gregory B Peters, posted January 30th, 2013, 1:12am at here

Greg Peters:
i have experienced VA math...i forget my numbers ...but combined they total say 50% but
VA Math changes it to 45 or maybe even 40 (i forgot).

Posted by: Gregory B Peters

Date Posted: January 30th, 2013, 1:12am

Frenchie, it is called VA math :-)

Where things become really confusing is when a veteran suffers from two or more service connected disabilities which must be combined according to the VA Combined Ratings Table. Using what many veterans refer to as “VA Math,” under the Combined Ratings Table, two 50% disability ratings do not add up to a 100% rating as most people would expect. Rather, two 50% disabilities are combined to give a veteran a 75% disability rating ( which would then be rounded up to an 80% disability rating).
The justification for this combination is that once a veteran’s ability to work is 50% impaired by a disability, any other disability ratings are applied only to the remaining, unimpaired 50%. In other words, the second 50% disability rating applies only to the 50% of the veteran’s ability to work that is not already impaired. 50% of 50% is only 25%, so the additional impairment only adds 25% to the veteran’s overall disability ratin ...

Posted by: Gregory B Peters

Date Posted: January 30th, 2013, 1:07am

Hi All, below is two articles. Most I know have 10%. Carl, your rating might be based on what happened before they added IHD, or it wasn't the cause of your attack. but you are right the VA does love you, so file an appeal :-)

The symptoms that the VA is looking for are dyspnea (shortness of breath), fatigue, angina (chest pain), dizziness, or syncope (fainting). You need not have all of these symptoms to qualify for a particular rating, but it is important to know what the possible symptoms are so that you can inform your doctors, and the VA, if you are having these symptoms.
Only a minimum rating of 10% is appropriate where the veteran experiences these symptoms after doing activities such as jogging , biking or climbing stairs quickly (a level of 7-10 METs). A higher rating of 30% is warranted where the veteran experiences the symptoms at a level of 5-7 METs. This level of activity would include heavy yard work such as digging or mowing ...

Posted by: carlfryman

Date Posted: January 29th, 2013, 3:53pm

Frenchie,

I had a heart attack in 2004 and bypass surgery in 2009 and was given a 30% rating. There are guys on this website that have never had either, just stents, that were given a 60% rating. I certainly don't understand that and have considered an appeal. Just don't want to deal with the hassle. The VA loves guys like me!!!!

Carl Fryman
C 2/1
11/67 - 11/68

Posted by: Frenchie

Date Posted: January 29th, 2013, 3:37am

Doc, i dont have that disability but is it possible that the 100% includes more than one disability combined ? IE: heart + ptsd+PH injury = 100%

Posted by: DocMosher

Date Posted: January 28th, 2013, 9:25pm

Thanks, Duke. Mine is 60%. Don't know why I have that much more than you, but I know people with 100%!!

-Doc

Posted by: Eddie"Duke"Ellington

Date Posted: January 28th, 2013, 8:50pm

Doc, Seems that mine is 30%.
Hope this helps.

Duke A/3/21 69

Posted by: DocMosher

Date Posted: January 28th, 2013, 6:38pm

I have talked to several vets who have a rated disability for Ischemic Heart Disease and it seems that everyone's disability is at a different rating. I have heard from 30% to 100%. If you don't mind, would you please post your rating for Ischemic Heart Disease?

Thanks,

Doc Mosher