196th LIGHT INFANTRY BRIGADE
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2006 GUESTBOOK ENTRIES

    MR. EDITOR,I HAVE BEEN AWAY FROM THIS SITE FOR A WHILE CAME BACK THIS HOLIDAY SEASON,WISHING EVERYONE WELL,MAYBE FINDING PEOPLE I SERVED WITH, THANKS BOB
    bob mccaffrey <mccbob52@aol.com>
    henderson, nv USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 21:01:07 (EST)

    I served in B company 2/1 196th LIB in July, August, and September of 1969. If anyone remembers me please send an email especially Fox.
    Bob Livingstone <livingrock49@comcast.net>
    Puyallup, WA USA - Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 01:12:37 (EST)

    I went through basic and ait with a few guys that I am looking for. Bill West, he went to the 101st aiborne. He sent me a picture. He was from Fort Worth, Tx. Another, was Larry McMahon and he too was from Fort Worth, Tx. He was wounded in a mine field working with the 198th division. He became a company clerk after that I think. He had scares all across his chest. Another, was Robert Picnic who served in Charlie Company of the 3/21 of the 196th. I have pictures of him and me in Fort Ord, California. I have a couple from Nam. Anyway, if you know him, or if you are him, call me brother. It has been along time since 69. Robert Noland, who was in Alpha Company in 70. Fought in Heip Duc and lived. Anybody, know these guys. Call, write, anything. Thank you Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Friday, December 29, 2006 at 00:45:06 (EST)

    WOULD LIKE IN FORMATION ON 2007 REUNION TRIED ADOBE IT JUST MESSES UP MY COMPUTER THANKS BOB
    BOB MCCAFFREY <MCCBOB52@AOL.COM>
    HENDERSON, NV USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 23:10:21 (EST)

    HELLO TO ALL, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER LZ LINDA OR MAUDE, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE ARM FORCES RADIO STATION I BELIEVE TO BE AROUND TAN ME, IT WAS RUN BY A CIVILIAN BOB
    bob mccaffrey <mccbob52@aol.com>
    henderson, nv USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 22:51:52 (EST)

    I served in Vietnam from November of 1970 with Delta Company, 3/21st, 196th LIB. In April or May of 1971 I was transferred to Echo Company, 3/21st, 196th LIB. I am looking for anyone from Echo Company who served during the same time I was at LZ Yonkers from April or May of 1971 until August 1971. Please give me a call 563-735-5532. I would like to hear from anyone who would have been at LZ Yonkers. I will be attending the reunion this summer. Bert T. Selness (Baby Ranger, Delta and Echo Companies, 3/21st, 196th LIB, LZ Center and LZ Yonkers).
    Bert T. Selness <bts@mabeltel.com>
    Decorah, IA USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 11:54:21 (EST)

    Dave I also carried the M-14 sniper rifle with the leather cover to cover the steel butt plate for awhile. Also the M-79, and the shotgun. Man what ever we could get our hands on we would try it out. Sure use to like the LAW too. E 3/21 Recon Assassins 1968
    Skip <smenard"at"hanover-co.com>
    Lafayette, La USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 11:50:53 (EST)

    Is there any other 196th ers out there that were a part of the sniper experiment in 1967 around the Chu Lai area?
    dave cater <d-katchartermi.net>
    Oscoda, MI USA - Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 10:54:48 (EST)

    I watched the news today and I saw Jerald Ford a President and the King of Soul James Brown passed within the last few days. Then, I got a phone call. It was from a wife of a man that walked my slack many times. His name, Dan Frisch, he served with the 3/21 of the 196th. He had lung cancer. He had been fighting it for the last couple of years. I called him a few months back. I could hardly understand his verbage with me. He was wounded in the neck in 70. He had a small bar in Sioux City, Iowa and his wife said since I contacted him it gave him a boost. He said to me, if his health would hold up he would be at the reunion I am hosting for the Recon 3/21 of the 196th next year. I was hoping he would be present. So, my brothers, take this time, 30 seconds is all I ask. Say a prayer, for support to his loved ones. I know, he is up there. He waits without pain on us to make the journey to the other side. He was a good man. I remember more. A prayer, is all I ask. Bless you for your concern. Thankyou my brothers Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 23:16:57 (EST)

    Carter again , I didn't give my unit, A co 4/31 My original comment is a few below.
    Dave Carter <d-katchartermi.net>
    Oscoda, MI USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 17:16:00 (EST)

    Merrychristmas to all 196ers and all our armed sisters & brothers. And a special HOLIDAY greeting to the nurses from the Vietnam era and anyone who has or is helping to save the lives or our wounded brothers & sisters. Also happy holidays to everyone who was on LZ WEST Christmas 1968, I hope your Christmas dinner was better than the one I fixed in ths C3/82 mess, as I recall it wasn't much. I think it may have been heated C RATS. Any one that served C3/82 10-68 12-69 pls contact me.
    Tom Munroe <tommunroe at sbcglobal.net>
    grass valley, ca USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 16:00:40 (EST)

    Wishing everyone a HAPPY NEW YEAR [john Aco 4/31 196th 70-71]
    John Webre <swampy70_71"at"yahoo.com>
    Pensacola , Fl USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 14:56:32 (EST)

    like to find members from co.c 8th support
    carter towne <nascarter at mysite.com>
    playa del rey, ca USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 14:19:03 (EST)

    Navy Unit Commendation information that was submitted by Roger W. Starr thank you. The only problem I have is I have not found a simple way to get the information from and to send it to. If anyone can condense this for me it will make my life easer. Happy Holiday and New Year to all from Bill (wildchild) Linnartz 3/21 Recon 67-68-69
    Bill Linnartz <blinnartz"AT"westlakehardware.com>
    CENTERVIEW, MO USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 14:01:29 (EST)

    Got Chu Lia April of 67 1sgt Keyes, then to sniper school M14 w/2.2 power scope. Didn't get to use it much, was riding on top of a loaded deuce which rolled into paddy on our way to "Purple Heart Hill". Got to work in supply thanks to 1st Sgt Keyes. Got back into the sh.. as and assistant gunner with a big fella named Morgan. He rotated out within a couple months and I got the 60. Carried it til I got to come home. My assistant was named Abe Cannot remember his last name. I can remember a lot of 1st or nick names but as to the places we walked and fought, I guess I never payed a lot of attention. I Have been reluctant to get involved but as I am pushing 60 now I am having a change of heart. Would like to here from anyone who remembers me. Christmas just pasted hope yours were Merry. Hear comes another new year 07 can you believe it. where did they go. I see your faces in my memories, all barely 20 years old. god love you and take care of you. Carter
    Dave carter <d-k@chartermi.net>
    Oscoda, MI USA - Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 10:16:20 (EST)

    Wishing all 196's and their loved ones a very blessed Christmas and Happy and Healthy New year. Jack Quinn 2nd Plt Co B 3/21 1965-1966
    John (Jack) quinn <quinnfamily"at"msn.com>
    East Falmouth, ma USA - Monday, December 25, 2006 at 12:04:49 (EST)

    isn't it great. here we are much later in our lives trying to remember the things that a few years ago we were trying to forget. i know that we will always remember the good and the bad. i hope and pray that everyone will have a great Christmas and a very good new year. may god watch over all of us and our brothers that are now serving
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpgatmsn.com>
    bradenton, fl USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 19:51:43 (EST)

    Just want to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and a Healthy and Happy New Years! God Bless
    Ray Schmitt D Co 3/21 2/68-3/69 <raymon"at"optonline.net>
    Parsippany, NJ USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 16:49:49 (EST)

    MR MOTT,THE MAN YOU REFERED TO WITH BA HAND PROBLEM WAS SELF INFLICTED,WE HAD JUST SUCH AN INCIDENT,HE SQUEEZED THE CLACKER OF A CLAMOR IN ONE HAND AND HAD THE BLASTING CAP IN THE OTHER HAND,I ALSO WAS AT PHU BIA,QUANTRI,TAN ME,DANANG BOB
    BOB MCCAFFREY <MCCBOB52@AOL.COM>
    HENDERSON, NV USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 14:39:45 (EST)

    Looking for a guy nicknamed Crazy John who served with 4th/31st, Charlie Co, 3rd Plt. Don't recall your last name John just remember your nickname being Crazy John. Walked slack for you when you would walk point. You and I were the LP one night in Kham Duc. That night our mechanical claymore that we set up went off. A boar I think tripped it. If by chance you see this and put this together please make a post. I am in contact with Harvey Van Hoven, Ron Heimerel, Barry Everett, Jim Mann and a few others who were short timers that had served within our time frame of 1970 to 1971.
    Greg O'Neil <goneil90804 at yahoo.com>
    Long Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 14:04:55 (EST)

    MR MOTT ,I WAS IN CO. A 2/1 DURING THAT TIME FRAME TASK FORCE GIMLET 196TH LEFT IN AUG.72 I REMEMBER TWO MEDICVACS ONE WAS AT NIGHT ONE DURING THE DAY DONT KNOW THE NAMES I DO KNOW THE INJURIES MAYBE ONE WAS YOU BOB
    BOB MCCAFFREY <MCCBOB52@AOL.COM>
    HENDERSON, NV USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 13:43:43 (EST)

    It has been noted that in recorded history, two people have died to set people free, one was Jesus Christ and the other was the individual American soldier. God Bless our soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen and their families and God Bless the United States of America.
    Michael Wicke <michaelwicke*optonline.net>
    Ocean, NJ USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 10:53:56 (EST)

    Hello and MERRY CHRISTMAS to all 196th LIB...Thank you for your help in locating the names etc. of the guys I served with in Nam.The memories are coming back and rest assured their not all bad. God Bless and may you find the peace you deserve. You are my Brothers forever,Thank you. And I will not forget the care and giving from our sisters(nurses etc.)especially the 91st evac. You helped save my life, and helped me heal. Provided a smile when one was needed most. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Pete Sargent C co. (3) 1/46- 196th LIB
    Peter B Sargent <Psargentatmaine.rr.com>
    New Gloucester, ME USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 10:30:35 (EST)

    To all "Chargers" of the 196th and especially the "Polar Bears" of the 4th of the 31st, Merry Christmas and please always remember that "Jesus is the reason for the Season" ~ this concept is fading fast. God Bless each and every one of you always ~ we were/are the lucky ones ! Was with Alpha and Delta 4th/31st .. September 68 to August 69...
    Eddie W. Zuleger <eddiezuleger@msn.com>
    Litchfield Park, Az USA - Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 09:47:15 (EST)

    HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL WHO SERVED IN 1972 2/1 AND 3/21 MILLS,EDENS,THOMPSON,PEURA,JENKINS,PACHECO,MULLER,DEGREW,MAXIE COLLINS,PETRANGLO,ROBERTS,RAGSDALE,PETIT,BAKER,GRAM,GIDIONS HARRIS,PAYCHECK,BERRYHILL,RYAN,MORAN,GARCIA,PORTERFIELD, DRAGONI,GRISWALD,SMILEY,TEX,WOODY,DEVANE,RYEA, BOB MCCBOB52@AOL.COM
    BOB MCCAFFREY <mccbob52@aol.com>
    HENDERSON, NV USA - Saturday, December 23, 2006 at 22:08:13 (EST)

    I forgot a minor/trivial detail...after liberating the C-Rats in Camp Evans several times they got wind of C Rats being liberated by some misfits so they decided to have dogs on guard behind THEIR barbed wire...baaad bad on us...then they noticed the empty pile of cans and they made us dig and dig and dig...we never found whatever we were digging for...turned out the area we were was an old dump.
    GILBERT "FRENCHIE" MANASSELIAN <namratsathotmaildotcom>
    fresno, ca USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 21:19:41 (EST)

    Gentlemen, That means you too Frenchie ..... Hey La Palio i am flattered....ahhhh the memories...walking in the boonies, raiding the chopper pads of some other company in Camp Evans for some newer c-rats, babysitting the big wigs in Da Nang (Camp Horn), taking laundry and mail to the guys on circus day...showering in the field during a rain storm, being buzzed by the F-4 on LZ West(i have proof), Marines in Antenna Valley testing their 50 Cal on Co C, having the luxury of riding the APCs a couple times.....ahhh the memories.........best of all? The permanent bond we have with each other....
    GILBERT "FRENCHIE" MANASSELIAN <namratsathotmaildotcom>
    fresno, ca USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 21:11:25 (EST)

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Recon and Delta Co 2/1
    Jim Collier <jmrcollier at hotmail.com>
    Washington, DC USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 20:53:14 (EST)

    I too, extend my best wishes to all Chargers, Merry Christmas. A healthy and happy New Year. Pro Patria, ED.
    Ed Latini <sargent196infantry"at"msn.com>
    evergreen, Co USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 18:39:52 (EST)

    Gentlemen, That means you too Frenchie all of you guys in HHC, Delta, and Charlie companies, I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a happy holiday season... Thank you all and God Bless you and your familes. Doc La Palio
    Tony "Doc" La Palio <aml at vglabs.com>
    Long Beach, Ca USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 15:58:35 (EST)

    Wishing all my brothers a very Merry Christmas, Bob Dunphy B 2/1 1970.
    Bob Dunphy <mdunphy1@msn.com>
    Phila, pa USA - Friday, December 22, 2006 at 09:04:12 (EST)

    I read what you post most everyday and it makes me proud just to have been a small part of it. With what I read I feel that many of you are really heroes in my mind. Like, Frenchie, Webre, Stoney, Buelher, and Captain Jack, you are the men that care. You hang with it. You touch the men. My hat is off to you. I do not have a clue where you have been but you do make a difference now. Keep it up. I do feel like a small part. I am proud to have served with you. So merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I hope there are many more. Keep it coming. Until then, may God Bless you for all the trials you have been in. Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Thursday, December 21, 2006 at 21:56:25 (EST)

    For the past three years I have been activly involved, along with others, in trying to locate former members of Echo Co, 1st Bn, 46th Inf, 198th & 196th LIB. We have met with great success and as of tody we have made contact with over 150 former members of our unit. I have had a couple of really great success stories, the one that is most rewarding is locating an entire Recon squad for someone that, when I first spoke with them stated that they didn't think they would ever want to get involved with our group or any reunions. There have also been some really negative responses from members when they are located. This week I have found two former members, one has cancer and the other has a heart problem, and both have told me that they do not want any contact with anyone from our group, and that I am not to pass on their information. One of the guys told me that it was too late in his life to try to rekindle any friendships that happened over thirty years ago. He did tell me that he would have someone notify me when he is gone so we can add him to our memorial service. It is an honor for me to be involved in locating these guys, coordinating the reunions, and just being a part of this in general. I think that there is a great deal of healing that takes place at our reunions, or at any military reunion. We came home, one at a time, and for the most part hid the fact that we were even over there. I am proud of our generation for what we did, some because we were told to and some of us volunteered, but none of us refused. We all need to be proud of what we did as well as be proud and supportive of the kids that have taken over for us. God bless and watch over those that are still in harms way throughout the world. Merry Christmas to all.
    Paul Gildner, Echo 1/46th <pgildner"at"sbcglobal.net>
    Cadillac, MI USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 12:28:12 (EST)

    Anyone out there who may have ran into a SFC George Mills from Oklahoma during their army stint. He was in A 3/21 and was wounded in March 68, left the Company and never saw him again. It was a minor wound of the foot. He was a career soldier. Sure would like to locate him as I have tried over the years with no success. Stoney
    Stoney <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Lexington, Ne USA - Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 08:02:58 (EST)

    I do want to wish everyone from C 4/31 196th LIB a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year....La Palio, Ralph, Richard Martinez...and all of you too. REQUEST My buddy Richard Martinez in Dallas is looking for Sgt Guiterez(3rd platoon) (Spel) email address...email me please if you have it. Ill forward it to my buddy Richard.. What a guy that Sgt G...whooooohoo!!! Anyone here heard from Tony Vigil? Thank you all for the info in regards to the Reunion. Please dont send me any more... Lastly i do wish all our troops a safe return. We been there and know what sacrifice means.
    GILBERT "FRENCHIE" MANASSELIAN <namratsathotmaildotcom>
    fresno, ca USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 19:53:58 (EST)

    frenchie. you need abobe reader to open the file. i emailed the file to you. hope that you can open it.
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpg>
    fl USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 19:35:13 (EST)

    Frenchie, Ralph Urrutia,Jeff Miller,Jerry Josey,Doc LaPalio,Bob Hermann,... Nui Chom, LZ West chopper crash, LZ West gook assault, Sgt G's sapper squads,humping, weather, eating chicken... I still remember most... Happy holidays to all 196ers. Doc Mercer
    Doc Mercer
    USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 15:23:55 (EST)

    Brotheres, Just finished reading the 31st. Inf newsletter. I was disconcerted to find out that, on 9/19/o6, Spec. Bobby Callahan from Jamestown, N.C was killed in iraq, when the vehicle he was in turned over. On Oct.1st.P.F.C Satieon V "T" Greenleewas killed by sniper fire in Baghdad, he was from Pemdleton, S.C. Also on the 1st., Lt. Scott Quilty lost an arm and leg (improvised explosive device) while on dismounted patrol. These men were and are with A/4/31, the unit, since 2001, has had four combat tours. Our' brother Polar Bears are still under the hammer. With deep regret, Ed. Pro Patria.
    ed latini <sargent196infantry"at"msn.com>
    evergreen, co USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 12:25:55 (EST)

    I am trying to access the reunion information and so far I am not getting anywhere. Ive used Internet Explorer and FIREFOX...nothing is happening. I even tried sendind the webmaster a note and nothing is happening. I dont believe the problem is on my end. Could someone email me the Reunion (Kentucky) information? Thank you.
    Gilbert "Frenchie" Manasselian <namratsathormaildotcom>
    Fresno, Ca USA - Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 05:36:01 (EST)

    MERRY CHRISTMAS to all my grunt friends from C 4/31 68/69
    Ralph Urrutia <Reefraft"at"bellsouth.net>
    Miami, Fl USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 20:33:13 (EST)

    Wishing all the brothers from the 196th MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,and health ,and all the guys that served with me , co. B 2/1 in 1966.Anyone from second platoon ?
    George Papachronis
    Portage, in USA - Monday, December 18, 2006 at 10:28:07 (EST)

    Joseph Edward Hogue my Uncle, served in the 196th 2/1 Americal Division, Headquarters Company, from August 1968 to January 1970. He was at both LZ Baldy and Hawk Hill. He was a Colonel’s Driver. He lives in Central Florida now and doesn’t have a computer. He would really like to hear from anyone who remembers him. If you do please give him a call at 863-422-8550. Also if there are family members or friends that have questions he may have answers for you since he was a driver he got around. May God Bless all who have served and those who still do!!
    JOSEPH EDWARD HOGUE <AKRIEG@COX.NET>
    HAINES CITY, FL USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 22:02:23 (EST)

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all my brothers in the 196th...may we all exprience the piece of the season and extend prayers for those and their families who never made it home...the attached e-mail is to the web site ( https://thor.aafes.com/scs/default.aspx )that allows us to send prepaid calling cards to all those in iraq and afgahnistan...this is a way to offer them some comfort...we all remember what its like...vince.
    vincent scalese <vscsalese"at"adelphia.net>
    thornton, nh USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 16:01:23 (EST)

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all 196th brothers. Woody Glaudel B/4/31 July 66- Feb. 67
    woody glaudel <woodyglaudel at cox.net>
    scottsdale, AZ USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 14:29:40 (EST)

    Dave, this is D-2-1. I hear you lima-charlie. Roger that Merry Christmas and same-same to you. Sit-Rep-Neg here,over Ron
    Ron <ronniepayne"at"adelphia.net>
    Va USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 09:38:24 (EST)

    Just wishing all my brothers in the 196th a ver"Merry Christmas" and "Thanks to all" Sit Rep Neg, over
    Dave Frierson <"at">
    Roxbury, VT USA - Sunday, December 17, 2006 at 07:19:32 (EST)

    At this holiday season, and as I have gotten older, I think back to the days when I was younger. The finest people I have ever met, have been those with Delta Comapany, 4th Battalion, 3lst Infantry, 196th Light Infantry Brigade, Americal Division. I was an R.T.O. for several months in 1970, with Delta Company, before being reassigned back to Chu Lai. Over the years, I have attempted to locate several old friends, with no results. Particularly, I remember Micahel Kelley from Missouri, and Doc Rhodes from New Jersey, and Sgt. Waterberry from Rhode Island. My father was involved with the invasion of Europe during W.W. II, and also received his C.I.B. He once told be that it was best to forget those friends of old. I find that hard to do. If anyone was with Delta Company, 4/31st Infantry, 196th Infantry Brigade, Americal Division, from April 1970 to May 197l, please send me an e-mail. I look forward to hearing from you. Take care. Ray Bess, R.T.O., 2nd platoon, Delta Company, 4/31st, 196th, Americal Divison. RB
    ray bess <ray bess "a" myway.com>
    houston, tx USA - Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 17:58:31 (EST)

    Wishing all fellow 196 GRUNTS a Very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Slick Burns
    Jon Burns <jonkburns@verizon.net>
    Wimberley, TX USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 17:22:32 (EST)

    Wishing all a safe and Happy Holidays for you and your loved ones. Special wishes to my brothers of C/321 196th 68-69. Thanks
    Rodney Bryant Green <rodney@colliersf.com>
    San Francisco, Ca USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 13:05:05 (EST)

    Wishing all my 196th brothers a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.[ John Aco 4/31 196TH 1970]
    John Webre <swampy70_71"at"yahoo.com>
    Pensacola , Fl USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 11:13:05 (EST)

    Just want to wish you all a very merry Christmas and remember the reason for the season. Bob Hammond, B,4/31, 1969
    robert hammond <rwhammond@fairburn.com>
    Douglasville, GA USA - Friday, December 15, 2006 at 10:54:28 (EST)

    looking for anyone that may remember me. Was stationed in CHU LIA. 1968 1969 was in motor pool B co. attached to. the first of the 14th artillery. It was a jump battery. Most of the time we were on LZ Dottie. was also in the motor pool, headquarters Co. LZ bayonet.both of the LZ's were off of Highway 1.hope to hear from someone. SPC 4 PARIS
    GLENN PARIS <brovo6golf"at"aol.com>
    wedgefield, sc USA - Thursday, December 14, 2006 at 20:11:49 (EST)

    Christmas Eve 1967 a Vietmanese preist did midnight mass @ Arvin Arty. Familiar tunes strange words and fog rolled down the Valley . Six months in and six to go.'' Peace & Happiness to all
    Bob Kelly <lib196bob@aol.com>
    Millsboro, De USA - Wednesday, December 13, 2006 at 16:15:01 (EST)

    merry xmas to all of the men i served with in b co 2/1st inf 196th inf bde.i wish you and your families a happy, prosperous and good health for the new year.to i was fortunate this past year to know that some of the men i served with are doing well and i was happy to hear that they rememberd me, after all these years.
    joseph genereux <jgenereux@cfl.rr.com>
    ormond beach, fl USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 15:34:06 (EST)

    looking for anyone that served with a 2/1 3rd plt from nov 67-oct 68,
    larry furr <larry_furr@bellsouth.net>
    stanfield , nc USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 15:18:14 (EST)

    The name Michael Myers seemed familiar, so I did a little research. It turns out he was in C 4/31 (I was in A 2/1), so I didn't know him. In the process of looking for his unit, I came across a webpage I hadn't seen for a while called The Virtual Wall (www.virtualwall.org). This is really a great resource, with pages dedicated to information about names on The Wall, including about 5000 of the 38000 Army dead, these the ones friends and family have posted memorials for. It is too bad that 33000 are not there, including many from the 196th. The website is searchable by unit, so it is easy to find out more about who you knew, as well as who needs to be added. I would like to suggest that we all look at the project and think about the brothers we can remember there.
    Jim Armstrong <jimarmatpacific.net>
    CA USA - Sunday, December 10, 2006 at 12:00:24 (EST)

    looking for anyone who knew my brother, michael myers. kia feb 28,1967 operation junction city.
    tim myers <timbevmyers@comcast.net>
    USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 23:41:32 (EST)

    happy holidays to all former and present chargers.our next reunion is going to be another great time for all. hope to see everyone there. dave, if you see this try to make it this time you will not regret it.
    don maxfield
    prospect pk., nj. USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 22:42:11 (EST)

    Best wishes to all of the great guys who were with me in 1st platoon of A/2/1 from January thru September of 1970. LT MAC
    Ron McClarnon <RonAMc@sbcglobal.net>
    indianapolis, IN USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 20:54:46 (EST)

    I had one of my friends I served with write me tonight. He ask why I should bring things up talking with all of Recon 3/21 of the 196th. He said it should all be left in the past. I thought about it awhile and I finally figured it out in my mind. It is not the war, or the hard things we did. It is the men that I served with. A bond. Knowing they would be there when the shit hit the fan. Like Frenchie said you do not have to say the words. The feeling is still there. I agree. The feeling, a bond, it is still very strong in my heart. The war now, does not mean a thing but Recon was the only thing in my life I felt a part of. So go figure why after 36 years of keeping it bottled up inside I go to find my brothers. Some like what I have done, finding Recon. Some said I should not talk about it. Why Not? How else can you write history? This is American History at its best. Who, but we, can make it clear, What Happened? Now that we are older and all I do is piddle around. I feel like man, I'd like to go another round but I know that is out of the question but it would be a good way to go out. Now, I feel like I am lingering, just waiting for a time even though we thought everyday would be gravy after Nam. So as Stoney said I will relinqish the hammer now. These were just thoughts running through my head. I could be wrong. Heaven help us. Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Saturday, December 09, 2006 at 02:37:58 (EST)

    Looking for antone who was with the 48th Scout Dogs- 196th LT INF. Especially 1967-1968. My dogs name was Tina 19x7
    Jim Gregoire <Jmoontoo@aol.com>
    Steamboat Springs, CO USA - Friday, December 08, 2006 at 08:35:42 (EST)

    I believe Lt. Ransbottom's call sigh was Snoppy-6.There was a memorial painted on a rock at LZ Ross in honor of him and the Recon Plt. It was a picture of Snoopy the Beagle from the Peanuts Gang. I believe he is the one that called in and said he was the last one alive and he was killing them as they came in his bunker. They were all heros. D-2-1, 196th. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Ron
    Ron <ronniepayne"at"adelphia.net>
    Martinsville , Va USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 07:55:20 (EST)

    Looking for anybody who served with my father Samuel Robert Springs in vietnam {Da Nang} in the 196th or ft.carlson co. or panzer kerzerne germany and FT Lewis WA. I have not heard from him since 1982 belived to be in charlotte NC area, He has grand kids now Thankyou
    michael springs <fox93@excite.com>
    puyallup, wa USA - Thursday, December 07, 2006 at 01:40:32 (EST)

    looking for John Webre found message from dec swampy70-71
    mac <byrnesjm@comcast.net>
    USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 20:18:24 (EST)

    swampy70-71 John Webre Looking for mac byrnes pls e-mail
    mac <byrnesjm@comcast.net>
    USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 20:12:18 (EST)

    KHAM DUC: Mrs Ransbottom has picked 13 Jan 2007 1:00 pm at the Henderson Hills Church ,in Edmund OK.for her son's burial. Lt. Ransbottom's remains were recently returned from OP-2 at Kham Duc where they have been since 12 may 1968 , Mother's Day. He was the Plt Ldr of the Reconn Plt manning OP's at Kham Duc and they were overrun. He was in "E" Co. 2/1st Inf. Skip Skivington's, from same OP-2 bunker, remains were also returned and an Arlington burial is planned ,,but no firm date yet. "God Bless the Infantry",,, and their families
    Bill Schneider <wschnei591@aol.com>
    Bull Town, Mo USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 14:49:43 (EST)

    KHAM DUC Mrs Ransbottom has set the date of 13 Jan 2007 at 1:00pm for Burial of her son Frederick whose remains were recently returned from OP-2 at Kham Duc, they ahve been there sindce 12 May 1968, Mother's Day. Lt Ransbottom was the Plt Ldr of the Rconn Plt "E" Co 2/1st Inf
    Bill Schneider <wschnei591@aol.com>
    Bulltown, Mo USA - Wednesday, December 06, 2006 at 14:47:22 (EST)

    If any of you are interested on December 14 12:00 noon, programs are being held at most if not all National Cemetaries called WREATH'S ACROSS AMERICA to honor all vetrans - especially those no longer with us. Should you want more information check out WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA and click on the site. Wishing all of you a very safe and merry Christmas as well as a Happy New Year.
    Peggy <plreider at aol.com>
    Dover, PA USA - Tuesday, December 05, 2006 at 16:56:39 (EST)

    For those of you considering what to do with your memorabilia from your Vietnam experience, I ask you wait until after the reunion to decide. We will have Dr. Richard Verrone from the Vietnam Center of Texas Tech University as our guest speaker. Dr. Verrone will explain the Vietnam Project which will offer all of us the opportunity to donate our stuff, under our names and indvidual units, to the University for use in promoting the study of the Vietnam War and preserving our history for future generations. All of our material will be converted to electronic media as a Virtual Vietnam Archive that will be available for viewing on-line. Anything you send to the Project, they will keep under your name as the "John Doe Collection" and all will be recorded on CD's, free of charge and sent to you. The University also has an Oral History Project to preserve our voices and stories. Thousands of individuals and many units to include the Americal Division Association are already involved with this project. There is much more to this than I can remember to tell you at his time. Again, I ask you to please hold off on your plans until after the reunion. I think you will be glad you did. The email address for the Vietnam Archive is www.vietnam.ttu.edu. The reunion flyer will be in the mail shortly. I look forward to seeing you all there. I wish you all a happy and healthy holiday season.
    Warren <President, 196th>
    Cicero, IN USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 19:16:23 (EST)

    Both are excellent suggestions...I was hoping for suggestions that would keep the stuff locally....so that Frenchie Jr etc etc would be able to take family to view history made. Hope you know what i mean.
    GILBERT "FRENCHIE" MANASSELIAN <namratsathotmaildotcom>
    fresno, ca USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 19:00:29 (EST)

    Frenchie I think the 196th at Ft. Shaftner in Hawaii has some type of museum for the 196th, pictures and memerobelia.
    john coombs <jrcoombs@comcast.net>
    salem, nh USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 18:17:59 (EST)

    Frenchie - An option is to check with the army bases. Ft Benning was in the process of opening a new Infantry museum and was requesting donations of memorabilia. I'm sure others may do the same. Hope that helps
    Mary <webmaster@31stinfantry.org>
    - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 10:23:26 (EST)

    Most of us are about 60. Some of us have many pictures, slides, silent movies, memorabilia of our tour over there. I dont want my slides to end up on Ebay because no one wants to mess with them.... my question is: what are some of you going to do with your stuff...ok, treasures. I am thinking of donating my stuff to a local veterans organization. They have a nice local museum...any other options? besides the next of kin.
    GILBERT "FRENCHIE" MANASSELIAN <namratsathotmaildotcom>
    fresno, ca USA - Sunday, December 03, 2006 at 10:08:03 (EST)

    Ken, I know that you read these comments and delete the spam, keep up the work.. but could you post a date as to when we can start making resv. for the 2007 reunion... D/4/31/ 68
    Butch Harris <hwh66"at"mindspring.com>
    arlington, tx USA - Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 20:23:42 (EST)

    Roy I was with E-3/21 Recon Assassins 1968, where are you planning this reunion
    Skip <smenardathanover-codotcom>
    Lafayette, La USA - Tuesday, November 28, 2006 at 12:36:45 (EST)

    It's been awhile since i was last on im still looking for you guys in bco3rd21st71/72 ive have a bunch of pics from then i have contacted a few guys preacher animal and a few more have a merry merry !!!
    mike campbell <sgtcampb"at" yahoo.com>
    sun prairie, wi USA - Monday, November 27, 2006 at 23:55:05 (EST)

    Recon 3/21 was coming off the side of a hill one day in 1970. I do not know the date. The point man tripped a booby trap with a delayed fuse. An explosion. I was in the drag of the platoon but I ran to the front to see what had taken place. Our LT was laying on his back in the middle of the trail. I ran to him and cradled his head in my lap. As I held him I said " you have got the million dollar wound". " You are going back to the world". He looked at me with the dazed eyes. He could not talk. He blew me a kiss. I said " I love you man". We carried him down to a rice paddy when the dust off came in. We sloshed through the rice paddy carrying the LT. We had to hold him up over our heads to slid him in the dust off. It was over then. I never saw him again. Years later, my wife and I were visiting my parents. My father was in WW2. He was talking to me about coming home from the service. He came into Whitewright, Texas on a train. He decided to get his hair cut before he went home. It was a small town and the news spread fast. By the time he got out of the barber shop my fathers parents pulled up in a old vehicle. I guess it would have been pretty imotional but as the story goes. He opened the door of the vehicle and had a short conversation with his dad. My dad sad that was the first time his dad ever said I love you. He broke down and cried and I did too. Since then, that is the ending to any visit with family or friends. Three little words that mean so much. I have found 28 of Recon from E3/21 of the 196th. I am still looking. I am hosting a reunion May 4, 5, 6th of 2007. Any I have not found please get in touch. The words though. Just the three little words. Go to all my brothers in arms. It is from my heart. Gods speed to you all. Happy Thanksgiving Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Monday, November 27, 2006 at 00:55:13 (EST)

    I knew of the finding of the remains of Lt. Ransbottom and others. VERY unofficially, the services for Lt. (Maj) Ransbottom will be in Edmond, OK on Saturday, January 13, 2007. What is the latest on Skivington and the other three remains found? Bill. e-mail me. Jim Quisenberry Co B, 2/1, 196 LIB Kham Duc, Mother's day, 1968
    Jim Quisenberry <Okie196 "at" earthlink.net>
    Plano, TX USA - Monday, November 27, 2006 at 00:32:25 (EST)

    George Papachronis, i was in the 1st. platoon 2/1 when your buddies got hit. they walked into a chinese claymore mine which was a 50 gallon drum filled with nut, bolts, razers ect.ect.ect. i was in base camp when the incident happened. my job was to wash there gear from the blood and guts to be handed out to there replacements. i also collected there personal items to be shipped home. i will never forget that assignment because there names were on there backpacks. i still think about it. george, i always thought you were killed in action during the war. thank God for this web site. now i know you're alive. please write back to me. thanks and welcome home brother...
    Phil Conrad <fastphilatrochester.rr.com>
    rochester 14622, NY USA - Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 19:39:12 (EST)

    nov 26. oklahoman.com has the story of the return of Frederick Ransbottom's remains after 38 years. He was killed at Kham Duc while a member of E Co.,2/1.Will print the article,and mail a copy to anyone who wishes one.
    bill russell <rwill62atmptelco.com>
    medicine park , ok USA - Sunday, November 26, 2006 at 09:50:27 (EST)

    Regarding fungus on your feet. I have a friend who's nephew had this problem and we were sitting in the Dr's waiting room talking about my foot problems. I had a fungus on my toe nails. Well the Dr had tried several expensive methods including wanting to remove toenails. Well this guy said to just soak my feet in a bleach and warm water solution, it cured his nephew's problems after several Dr's trys. I asked the Dr and he said it would kill about anything so I went home and gave it a try. It cured it in a hurry and still have all my toenails in tact. It's cheap but the Dr's wont prescribe it. No money in it I guess. Stoney
    Jim <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Ne USA - Saturday, November 25, 2006 at 10:55:49 (EST)

    Joe: Re Trench Foot. I have a friend who served in another unit in Vietnam that has suffered for years with some kind fungus or other foot disease that is nearly incapcitating and should rate some VA disability. I have searched the internet and gotten lots of information about foot problems, but never seen anything relating them to Vietnam and/or the VA. I would like to see what your efforts have turned up. Thanks. C, Hq, A 2/1 '65-'67
    Jim Armstrong <jimarmatpacific.net>
    CA USA - Friday, November 24, 2006 at 15:41:56 (EST)

    On Nov 20 1968 I was wounded on Nui Chom. I was helping carry another wounded soldier out. I was carried out, and did not know what happened to him. After four days in LZ Baldy, Da Nang, then to 245th Evac in Tokyo, on Thanksgiving day, in what I thought was another nightmare, I heard Dave Larrick's vouce calling out to me. We had been shipped to not only the same hosptal, but to the same wardand beds next to each other. Now, THAT wqas a Thanksgiving to remember! Dave, if you are out ther and reading this, I'm glad that you made it. Get in touch, leave an e-mail address and I'll get back to you. Welcome home, and Happy Thanksgiving. Jim, "gunner Wil" Willard
    Jim Willard <jimwillard"at"charter.net>
    Walla Wala, WA USA - Friday, November 24, 2006 at 01:56:13 (EST)

    In honor of the men of the 196th "Thanksgiving Day Battle, Taskforce Dorlan Hill 63, Nov 23rd 1967. Phillip Adams, Ken Adams, Ron Essler, Robt. Waddell, Rod Loatman (D 4/31): Joe Cloud (F Troop 7th Cav): Calvin Strong (B 3/21). They fought beside us and gave their all, may God bless them and all of us and this country.
    Ron Morenz <Chgosouthsidemo at aol.com>
    Mesa, AZ USA - Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 11:45:42 (EST)

    Happy Thanksgiving-its a depressing rainy day here-Does anybody remember the day when the 198th dropped a granade in the chow line?
    will whalen <wwwillymonatcs.com>
    Boston, Ma USA - Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 11:22:02 (EST)

    David Estrada: I could send you dozens of links about trench foot. Get a DAV officer and get the VA to take care of it. Trench foot (immersion foot) caused 20+ percent of the casualties in WWI and as lately as the Faulkland war , 14 % of those.As you already know it causes long term nerve damage, pain or numbness and a dozen other things over time.
    Joe
    USA - Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 20:19:06 (EST)

    Ken! You made my day! It is always nice when someone recognizes my dad. I have no idea what Track he was on but I do know that his hearing was impaired after the track he was on was blown up. He told my sister that they lost their driver that day as well.
    Kristen Schoonover <misskrisaz71 "at" mac.com>
    Surprise, AZ USA - Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 13:15:22 (EST)

    Does anyone know where I could get some information on Jungle Rot/emersion foot. I would like to know the long term effect of this condition. I got a really bad case in Vietnam in 1968. The doctor at the field hospital on LZ Center informed me at the time that if I had been there 48 hours later I would have had both feet amputated. I have had extreme pain on both feet for about 30 years.
    David A. Estrada <dae7746@sbcglobal.net>
    Hockley, TX USA - Tuesday, November 21, 2006 at 04:15:11 (EST)

    Kristen, I recognize your Dad. Although I was an original 196er, I was also shipped down to the 5th Mech in January '67. I was on Track 22 "Track of Fools". Nice to see the photos on your web site.
    Ken McKenzie - Editor, 196th Assoc
    Eaton, NH USA - Monday, November 20, 2006 at 14:50:39 (EST)

    My dad Ric "The Logger" Schoonover served in B Co. 3/21 196th LIB 1966 - Jan 1967 before being transfered to C Co. of the 1/5 [Mech] 2 25 (from 1/67-7/67). Anyway.. I just posted a bunch of new photos from a photo album that my mom created when my dad was in the 196th on my website. I also have some photos of his time in the 1/5. I have no idea who anyone is except for my dad of course. He doesn't want to explain the photos to me yet so I am on my own. Feel free to check them out at http://web.mac.com/misskrisaz71/iWeb/NewSite/Vietnam.html. Let me know if anyone looks familiar. Thanks and God Bless. Kristen
    Kristen Schoonover <misskrisaz71@mac.com>
    Surprise, AZ USA - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 23:46:02 (EST)

    My brother was Sp4 Richard Lee Moss. At the time of his death he was serving as senior company aidman with A/4-31. Killed on May 16, 1968 by hostile mortar fire. Just finished reading Col Humphries "Through the Valley" which fills in a lot of big picture stuff. I highly recommend this book. I would be particularly interested in hearing from anyone who knew my brother, or could fill me in as to the operations of A/4-31 through April and May of 1968, or could tell me about the action in which my brother died. Thanks to all.
    Jeff Moss <moss1201@bellsouth.net>
    Dublin, GA USA - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 14:29:38 (EST)

    To: Dave Kruger/ Read your messsage Re: Wormdahl/ Wendowlowski. I was with the both of them the day that they died. I was a Forward Observer.(Wormdahl) He swung his machete and hit a booby trap. Re : Wendowlowski ,There were 3 of us that retrieved his body from the jungle.Stratazar(can't remember his 1st name) Joe Caldwell(medic) Deceased 12-27-05. We had been in that jungle 3 times that day, were under heavy fire each time. We took a head count and Wendowlowski was missing. We didn't play leaving our boys out in that Sh... He was married before we went over and I don't think he had to go. But all of those guys from Ill. wanted to go. John Crandall from the same area was also killed. Write back if there is more you or someone in his family needs to know. Freeman
    JOHN FREEMAN <johnnyfree"at"adelphia.net>
    Cleveland, OH USA - Sunday, November 19, 2006 at 00:21:56 (EST)

    Hello, Ed, I'm doing well. Abit too busy, but, oh well, that's just the way it is. I am starting to get several Gulf War vets as patients in our VA hospital. They seem so young, but they are older that we were when we were in the Nam!. I am surprized at the similarities of their post-war problems and our's. I encourage all Viet vets to reach out to the new, young brothers who are coming home "damaged goods". Tom Gimble, Tom Stanley, are you still reading the guest book? I havn't heard from you in a while. I'm looking forward to next reunion, see you there. Gunner Wil
    Jim Willard <jimwillard"at"charter.net>
    Walla Walla, WA USA - Friday, November 17, 2006 at 15:24:53 (EST)

    Hey "gunner" Will, how are you? I remember Nui Chom all to well. You were hit eight times! A miracle you're still with us. Looking forward to seeing you again at the reunion. Pro Patria. Ed.
    Edward Latini <sargent196infantry"at"msn.com>
    evergreen, Co. USA - Friday, November 17, 2006 at 12:38:49 (EST)

    The VAMC and Vets Center staff in Syracuse, NY are terrific. They could not be more helpful, respectful and cooperative. Not sure all us vets are always equally respectful with them, however. I served with Echo Recon, HHC and Delta 1/46 in 1970 - 71.
    Tom Schmitz <Tom Schmitz AT use.salvationarmy.org>
    Oneida , NY USA - Friday, November 17, 2006 at 11:09:24 (EST)

    It saddens me to see so many postings from fellow 196ers who are not getting quality care in our VA hospitals. It is criminal that any veteran not have the best care available anywhere in America. I was in A4/31 196 from May to Nov 1968. I carried the"60" and was wounded on Nui Chom. I spent a full year recovering from those wounds, and still have pain 24/7 (not to mention the nightmares etc. from my PTSD). I choose to get all my needs met through the VA. Our local VAMC in Walla Walla WA is a small facility with most of its staff also being veterans (many in Nam). As a result of the quality of care I got here, late in life, I went back to school and became a RN, and am now working in the VA here in Walla Walla, making sure that every veteran who comes through our doors is treated with respect and given state of the art care. Please do not give up on the VA, although you have had a bad experience, not all VAs are the same. Most are dedicated to our vets and to giving them the care they deserve. To all who served, "Welcome home!" Jim "Gunner Wil" willard
    Jim Willard <jimwillard(at)charter.net>
    Walla Walla, WA USA - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 16:16:03 (EST)

    Hey Brother Vincent Scalese...Happy Thanksgiving from Marna & I. We have now moved to Ft. Worth Tx. God Love Ya Man!! All is going great....Go Bears!! Ken
    Ken (Robbie) Robinson "B" Co. 4/31st Inf. <rken22@hotmail.com>
    Keller, Tx. USA - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 14:16:26 (EST)

    Very good site, and very the interesting, is a lot of helpful information for me. But many spam in guestbook...:( With best wishes, Max
    George Winkle <George Winkle>
    London, England - Thursday, November 16, 2006 at 12:33:38 (EST)

    CHARLIE CO.,3rd platoon,4/31 Nov.67-Nov.68. Stiglitz died May 25th, 1968. I heard Gutsfield died later. I have found Fitz and am still looking for Willie Taylor, Alvie Schmidt,Earl Ward, and any others that served with me. I was originally from Ohio. Bob Johnston
    Bob Johnston <mjohns1@tampabay.rr.com>
    Saint Petersburg, FL USA - Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 21:53:38 (EST)

    Served with recon plt in E.co,D.co& HHC,in 1972 with 3/21 also in TASK FORCE GIMLET.
    Dennis R McPeak <drmcpeak48@yahoo.com>
    Scottsville, Ky USA - Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 21:04:52 (EST)

    I just submitted a photo in the Bix website that Harvey Harrison mentioned in his post. It's of my brother Donald Cook, c 3/21, KIA 10/27/68 and his buddies sharing a beer in or around 7/68. I have no desire to win a contest that is not why I posted this picture, I just want to make sure that people don't forget any of you guys who served in Vietnam and to pay tribute to the men in the picture who helped make at least one day over there a good one. To all of you I thank you from my heart!
    Renee Diroff <Redir67athotmail.com>
    Canton, MI USA - Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 12:52:34 (EST)

    Hello Brother Chargers. It's been awhile since I last posted, I hope all is well. It's been 39 yrs. since arriving in the Nam. I can't quite recall where these decades went so quickly. I still wonder why I'm still around to witness them! Can't wait to see you all again at the reunion. Ed A/4/31, 2nd.Plt. 2nd.Squad. 11/67-11/68.
    Edward Latini <sargent196infantry"at"msn.com>
    evergreen, Co. USA - Wednesday, November 15, 2006 at 01:15:23 (EST)

    Sorry about misspelling its Nhi Ha not Nho Ha in previous post. Stoney
    Jim Stone <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Lexington, Ne USA - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 14:50:36 (EST)

    This is a long shot, so here goes. I was in the battle for Nho Ha in early May of 68. I was in A 3/21. On the first day of the battle I led a squad across the small paddy to retrieve dead and wounded around an old house foundation. The guys were in C 3/21. Anyway I was awarded the Bronze Star w/v for this. I received the medal at an awards ceremony but none of this got in my records, hence not on my DD214. My question is, is anyone out there who might have gotten a medal at the same time and my name might be on your set of orders. It's no big deal but would like to get it corrected. Thanks Jim Stone
    Jim Stone <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Lexington, Ne USA - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 14:46:34 (EST)

    Fred Startz, You'll need to go to the Army Board for the Corrections of Military Records in Washington, DC 20310,Rm 1E-517 The Pentegon or call this no. 301-837-1699.You'll have to send them the DD214 and other pertinent info. Let me know if you were successful. D4/31 67-68
    Ron Morenz <chgosouthsidemo at aol.com>
    Mesa, Az USA - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 12:06:32 (EST)

    I am an ORIGINAL CHARGER from back in October of 1965 at Fort Devens where The Brigade was initially formed. Note: I recently read that our 'Old Home', Fort Devens was sold to the pharmaceutical 'giant' Bristol Myers Squibb.
    Gene Hutmaker <genehut"at"comcast.net>
    Monmouth Junction, NJ USA - Tuesday, November 14, 2006 at 00:08:42 (EST)

    JIM,ALSO CHECK OUT CAFEPRESS.COM/AMERICANHERO.FOUR 196TH SECTIONS.MORE VARIETY.
    DOC LOUGH <wlhammer2@aol.com>
    USA - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 23:38:11 (EST)

    It is not possible to thank our veterans adequately. Their service, sacrifice, heroism, and humanity is above any expression or acknowledgment. Yet, we must try. Specifically but not exclusively, we must try with respect to our Brothers and Sisters who served in Vietnam because they, unlike other generations, were neglected (or worse) upon their return home. Please check out the AoG (http://www.bix.com/person/AoG) and the Voices of Veterans. Please post a story or a photo if you can. And please pass along to your Brothers, Sisters, friends and family.
    Harvey E Harrison <jasper@ix.netcom.com>
    Westlake Village, CA USA - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 21:12:12 (EST)

    will whalen 196th hats try www.cafepress.com/196th
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpg>
    bradenton, fl USA - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 18:44:21 (EST)

    Fred Strtz read about john simpers problem, here's a suggestioh. Have john go to a VA office and request a form 180 "requsst for military records. Send form to St. Louis MO requesting his DD-214 a DD215 plus all his medals ribbons and citations awarded him during his military career and list the date. Ifthat doesn't work he will have to search the National Archives in VA or DC,(memory a little vague), and research the date of the event and the date he was supposed to receive the medal. Also try searching the 196th for a morning report of such an event or thy searching the other WO name and reference his date of award. He may be able to research the archives on line but it may cost a few bucks. Good luck. I am a retired Veteran Service Officer for the state of Mass. Good luck
    paul flynn <peflynn1at yahoo.com>
    stoughton, ma USA - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 16:30:25 (EST)

    the project soldier tree went very well our church's goal was to fill 150 boxes. we filled just over 300. at least a few guys in iraq will be getting a nice surprise. i heard on the news that so far the great people of the USA have sent a total of 1 million of these boxes to date to our troops in iraq
    jim gray <mrtirejpg>
    bradenton, fl USA - Monday, November 13, 2006 at 06:34:18 (EST)

    Hope all had a quiet Veterans Day--including the Shake and Bakes. Methinks that "Grunt Medic" should take a deep breath, bend way over, and pull the stick out of his ass. Get a life, man!
    Grunt Gunner, '68
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 21:44:22 (EST)

    I found 196th hats on ebay. Try searching for 196th Infantry hat or just search for this item number. 280043114205 on ebay.
    whiskey two zero
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 21:26:23 (EST)

    Joe, sorry to hear you found it necessary to honor a VAMC with your presence, I truly mean that. A VAMC is not a cheery place, especially during holiday. Thanks for posting the VN Era music address. Doc Crawford put another one up, but I could not get to it, might have something to do with my PC skills or lack there of. Take care! "out, here"
    'Grunt Medic'
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 18:02:32 (EST)

    Speaking of Veterans Day I ended up at the VA Hospital that day as a patient. Huge place with empty halls and no visitors anywhere. A few Korean War vets in the room with me ,one Vietnam Vet. The Korean War vets had just given up, packing it in, not eating anymore. The Vietnam Vet had a botched exam which resulted in septicemia and surgery , he wasn't expected to make it. I heard he was a medic in Nam .No visitors , no one cared , a grateful nation and all that.
    Joe
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 16:22:02 (EST)

    Have seen nothing but post's in the last 3-5 days wishing everyone well. Here you come again, dumping on the Shake-N-Bakes! When I went, we got orders from Ft. Ord to go to Benning for NCOC. I didn't ask for it and the 190-220 others guys in the AIT Company didn't either, 4-5 guys refused to go and went to Nam in the next few weeks to get it over with. After my 3-4 months with the Ranger Company then sent to the 1/46th, it was a real awakening, they operated differently than the 6 man teams I was used to, but we mainly worked in platoon size elements from the Arizonas to Charlie Ridge up to the Southern Old Shit valley. From Sept. 71-March 72, then had the surprise Easter Offensive. Worked with an Lt and Capt ounce in awhile, and e-6 every now and then, everyone else was e-3's to e-5's. All others were in the rear or REMF's as we called them, never heard any BS about SNB's the whole time I was there.
    Jon Burns <jonkburns@verizon.net>
    Wimberley, TX USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 15:48:52 (EST)

    "I believe" Fox News has Ollie North's "War Stories" on at 1600 hrs (EST) this evening (11.12.06) with the subject matter being "the Battle for Dong Ha". The era is later than the May 68 snafu in which 'some' of 196th's best were involved 'helping out the Marines near Dong Ha. The story IS related to an Army unit.------In regards to my posts regarding the S&Bs, the last post by a 'buck' Sgt proves my point, went to VN as a school trained 11Beat-um-up, "leader of men" and left there as a Supply Sgt. I now relinquish the 'hammer'to whomever wishes to crack my nuts. "out' here"
    'Grunt Medic'
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 12:44:45 (EST)

    Hope all 196 had a nice and peace full week end and all vets everwhere
    john p flynn <shooter685at cox.net>
    USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 11:21:16 (EST)

    My hat is looking pretty bad-any ideas where to find a FNH
    will whalen <wwwillymonatcs.com>
    Boston, Ma USA - Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 09:32:19 (EST)

    A big thanks to all my brothers from C Co, 4/31 with whom I served in 68-69. I thank God for you all and for the sacrifices you made for our great country. God Bless!
    Richard Dixon <rwdixonathotmail.com>
    Houston, TX USA - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 18:55:09 (EST)

    Thank you all for serving our country.
    Linda <lcdgr "at" comcast.net>
    WA USA - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 17:07:05 (EST)

    I wish all my 196th brothers a happy VETERANS DAY. I would like to share something with all. Yesterday i went to an airshow and to my surprize i saw a Huey man did that bring back a lot of memorys it even brought a tear to my eye. to see a Huey after 35 years.
    John Webre <swampy70_71"at"yahoo.com>
    Pensacola , Fl. USA - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 08:54:36 (EST)

    Yesterday September 10th I was invited to a local school to talk about our Vietnam vet brothers.For the first time I accepted.I must tell you all that it was a VERY emotional expierence for me!I was so proud of those 7th & 8th graders.We have a GOOD crop of young people taking over for us!I told them all about the 196th LIB and all my brothers I lost over there.They asked some pretty tough questions.If I didn't know better I would have thought they were High School Seniors.I thought I did terrible but the principal and the history teacher came up to me after the ceremonies and Thanked me and said I did a wonderful job.They are the best. God Bless you all this Veterans Day and I miss all of my comrads lost in Nam.A special tip of the hat to Lt. Robert Scottie Byrnes our FO from the 82nd artillery who was KIA after I came home.I'm so proud of you ALL! Hope to see you ALL in Kentucky! God Bless.Tim Martin (Sgt.Marty D/2/1 12/66'-12/67')
    Timothy L. Martin <marty196th"at"yahoo.com>
    Nashville, OH USA - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 06:10:12 (EST)

    good morning men . hope that all of you have a very good veterans day. i know that i will. i am going to watch my grandson play in a soccer game today. i will be wearing my 196th lib t shirt to show my colors
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpg>
    bradenton, fl USA - Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 05:15:41 (EST)

    Vincent---Just noted your post, have a great time in Boston. See you in July!
    Don Campbell <donc"at"cebridge.net>
    Wellington, MO USA - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 20:37:25 (EST)

    Happy Veterans Day to all. The Veterans Affairs is asking ALL VETERANS TO WEAR THEIR RIBBONS AND AWARDS TOMORROW. To start a Pride Day for all Veterans, What do you all Think. Let's do it and be proud. We did our Service to this Country LET'S BE PROUD.
    Ralph <ralphurrutia"at" bellsouth.net>
    Miami, Fl USA - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 17:19:29 (EST)

    Happy Veterans Day MY Brothers! May each and every one of you have a Very Good Day today and may every day from now on be the best it can possibly be! If any one deserves it! You Guys Do! My Brothers of the "ROPE". May God Bless!
    Jon Burns <jonkburns@verizon.net>
    Wimberley, TX USA - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 14:45:00 (EST)

    I just wanted to wish our Veterans a Happpy Veterans Day, and THANK THEM All for what they done for are country and for all of us. Esp. the Viet Nam Vets that really never got thanked for all that they done, and all they went through. THANK YOU ALL.
    Mrs. Dennis Wrubel <wrubel48432@Yahoo.com>
    Filion, MI USA - Friday, November 10, 2006 at 12:22:36 (EST)

    sorry about that i am thinking about the 196th and all who never made it home on this veteran's day weekend...i will be in boston this weekend and looking for chargers...hope to intoduce my son to all i see...vince
    vincent scalese A 2/1 <vscalese"at"adelphia.net>
    thornton, nh USA - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 14:41:53 (EST)

    Just my usual hello and search for anyone who was with the 2/1, C co., 67/68. Thanks and GOD be with you all.
    bill <wilfrf5@aol>
    ny USA - Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 11:13:16 (EST)

    Douglas Brown, you stated that you were with the 1/46th but did not list a company. Please give me a call at 231.876.0468 or send me an e-mail. I was with Echo Co, 1/46th from Nov 69 thru Nov 70. Welcome Home to all my Brother.
    Paul Gildner <pgildner'at'sbcglobal.net>
    Cadillac, MI USA - Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 18:11:35 (EST)

    I finally have the nerve to sign the guest book, Iwas with the 3/21 Da Nang 1972 a,c and d company's, happy to see you guys are still doing a job with the 196th LIB, I want to thank each and evey one of you for your service to country, Sincerly Steven A Fuchs
    Steven Fuchs <e411bravo@hotmail.com>
    Eugene, OR USA - Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 01:40:51 (EST)

    Is Vance still in the hat business??
    will whale <wwwillymonatcs.com>
    Boston, Ma USA - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 19:12:10 (EST)

    Fred Startz Re Jim Van D's bronze star. If you can get a copy of the general order for his BSM it may have both names on it. Good luck.
    Tom Munroe <tommunroe at sbcglobal.net>
    Grass Valley, Ca USA - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 12:38:36 (EST)

    PAXSON I TRIED CONTACTING YOU BY EMAIL.PLEASE CONTACT ME.
    joseph genereux <jgenereux@cfl.rr.com>
    ormond beach, florida USA - Monday, November 06, 2006 at 09:58:18 (EST)

    Still looking for guys who were with Aco.4/31 196th lib.70-71. I found 20 guys so far.
    John Webre <swampy70_71"at"yahoo.com>
    Pensacola , Fl USA - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 18:15:38 (EST)

    George, I was the 1st Platoon Medic, and I remeber Nov 3rd, it is more of a night mare to me. That day on the trail, with all the men down. And Lt Dale Perkins, I remeber a caring officer, and I wish to this day, there was more I could have done for him, and the others. I pray they rest in peace. George email me if you want to share information on that day. Don "Doc" OBrien
    Don OBrien <uncledonsept46"at"yahoo.com>
    Alsip, Il USA - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 16:56:48 (EST)

    George: The 2/1 platoon leader's tent lost three guys in a little over a month: Jim Panzarella on 9/20, Ron Van Sessen on 10/31 and Dale Perkins on 11/3. Dale's home of record was Oregon City, but he actually came from a little place called Scotts Mills, where my great-gandmother lived all of her life. If you want contacts, you need to put an email address.
    Jim Armstrong <jimarmatpacific.net>
    CA USA - Sunday, November 05, 2006 at 11:36:44 (EST)

    It was 40 years ago yesterday that my co. got ambush. co B 2/1 LT Perkins,Fawble,Klink,Hesson, they all got killed.Anybody from co B outhere. drop me a line. George ((the greek)) Papachronis
    George Papachronis
    Portage, IN USA - Saturday, November 04, 2006 at 12:38:10 (EST)

    Hi, I am writing to you on behalf of someone at the P.O.W. Network (http://www.pownetwork.org/). The directors Chuck and Mary Schantag are trying to help a friend from the 196th LIB. After Christmas, December 1967, two warrant officer pilots of the 196th were scheduled to receive Bronze Star Medals for their service in VN. Then, at just the same time the ceremony was due to begin at the 196th BTOC, the brigade commander, Col. Gelling, was called out for a brigade emergency. He told the pilots that their awards would be presented properly at their next duty stations. One pilot, Jim VanDuzee, got his BSM presented later in the USA. The second pilot, John Simpers, never got his. For years this probably didn't matter, but now it would be good if we could close a circle for someone who worked his rear end off in VN flying everyone around inside - and sometimes outside - the AO. Checks of John Simpers' military records in St. Louis, MO do not show authorization for that BSM. Somehow his paperwork must have dropped through the cracks. Remember, two pilots were scheduled to be awarded the medal that day and only one got his. Unfortunately, Col. Gelling is deceased. Other major participants of the cancelled ceremony aren't known. First, I would like to ask if anyone stopping in at this forum remembers the cancelled ceremony or even more importantly, handling the Bronze Star paperwork for this pilot. Finally, any ideas that you may have about how we might get John Simpers his medal authorized, but then forgotten, long ago would be much appreciated. You can post here, write me (expat3@start.mailshell.com), or write Mary Schantag directly at the POW Network (info@pownetwork.org). Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Fred Startz HHC, 196th LIB Tay Ninh and Cu Lai, SVN 1966-1967
    Fred Startz <expat3@start.mailshell.com>
    Jakarta, Indonesia - Saturday, November 04, 2006 at 02:05:27 (EST)

    1btn46 inf 196th. would like to here from anyone as i was on lz pro and helped start lz maryann i was there from aug.69 to aug of 70.
    douglas brown <iamtopgun21>
    niles, mi USA - Thursday, November 02, 2006 at 15:51:42 (EST)

    Roy: I few months back I was eating out with friends and spotted a young Marine next table over wearing a combat action ribbon. It's hard to describe the feeling I had. I had a beer ordered for him and sent to him. He came over and shook my hand, I wished him luck. A few weeks earlier I had ordered a few shots of whiskey to sit on the table for a Marine that died on that date many years ago in Vietnam.When I say "I wished him luck", what I was feeling was, I hope it all turns out better for you then it did my generation.
    Joe
    USA - Wednesday, November 01, 2006 at 20:29:20 (EST)

    Tonight I went to dinner with my youngest son. Afterwards we went to Fast Eddies which is a pool hall. We had a couple of drinks and played a few games of pool. I saw a soldier with camo on at the bar. I told my son he was just back from Iraq. I approached the soldier and said " Did you just get back from Iraq". He said " Yes Sir" and ducked his head. He did not want to talk. I said " I served in the Nam and welcome home son" He said "Thankyou" and turned and left the place. I came back to the pool table and my son ask me how I knew he was just back from Iraq. He ask me " Dad was his fatiques" I said no son. He ask again "How did you know?". I said " Son it was his boots. There was no polish on them at all." I was proud that I had no polish on my boots. They were brown and worn. I remember the feeling. Do you? This was just a thought tonight. Yes, I have the tears in my eyes now. I can not help it. Peace to you my brothers.
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Wednesday, November 01, 2006 at 00:39:57 (EST)

    Tonight I found the 28th man that I served with in Recon 3/21 of the 196th. He was wounded November 15, 1970. My LT left me back with the cp because I was a short timer. The squad went to the top of the hill to look for the enemy. They were ambushed and the man I found tonight was the one that was wounded. A special find for me. He took my place. I called the fire missions in on top of that hill while they were coming off of it. I was very scared but we all made it threw it. This is just a reflection from the past and I am up tonight. I wish you the best my brothers and I will talk again. Later Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 01:42:08 (EST)

    Does anyone remember the (tropical chocolate bars) that were given out in mid to late 1967. They were in white wrappers and were everywhere you looked when I got there in Oct of 67. They absolutely would not melt no matter what. They would just turn a chalky white and tasted awful. No one ate them, even the gooks would throw them back at you. I just remember them laying on sandbags, in and on bunkers, on the ground, man they were everywhere you looked. Some one made a big sale to uncle sam that was a big flop. Stoney
    Stoney <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Lexington, Ne USA - Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 17:34:51 (EDT)

    Does anyone have info on SSF. Robert Murray of Bravo Co. 4/31-third platoon.He was Killed on june 1969,I need to find someone who was there or wrote him up for his award. Thanks, Jim
    Jim Sebestyen <jsebesty@hotmail.com>
    West Hartford, CT USA - Thursday, October 26, 2006 at 16:31:01 (EDT)

    I was on the quad 50 when we got overrun 28 March 1971 27 March was my birthday I had a pallet of beer and dint get any,Cco. 1/46 was back for a small stand down,We played penuckle in our hutch with some of the guys that were back for a stand down.
    Daniel R. Bergeon <dbergeon@web.de>
    Burgbernheim, Bav Germany - Wednesday, October 25, 2006 at 16:53:56 (EDT)

    mr. kruger, i believe you have the year incorrect for their death. it was 1966. please contact me at my email address
    larry mladek <larrygranny1 at yahoo>
    el paso, tx USA - Sunday, October 22, 2006 at 09:16:51 (EDT)

    The internet is really amazing in some ways. The other night I spent a few minutes looking up information on my Dad and some uncles concerning World War Two. I had heard the story maybe one time from my Dad, Army Aircorps, shot down over Italy, Pow camp etc. Same with my Uncle Harry. Anyway there are public records on all enlistment data, units served with at time of incidents for almost all military personnel. I go to the website for the bomber group mentioned in an incident report and there is a group photo with my Dad sitting in the front row. I wonder what they'll have listed for us as the computer age advances in the coming years? Everyone mentioned has passed on now but these computer archives remain.
    Joe
    USA - Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 23:41:18 (EDT)

    Hello everyone from 1/46 196LIB. would like to know the guys in my unit Charlie co 1/46 196LIB (3rd PLt). I was a short timer because I was wounded in a minefield (bt) along with 3 others. My name is Peter Sargent. I was near lz young Dec 12,1970 , when we wandered into a minefield the others wounded were Robert Mooneyham,sgt Austin Oliphant,and ssgElwin Aultman. The only others i can remember were LT.Frank M. Brosnan and Capt. Knight. I was there from Oct. - Dec.12,1970. If you were there and/or know the guys with me at that time,then please contact me. Thank You...Pete
    Peter B. Sargent <psargent@maine.rr./com>
    New Gloucester, ME. USA - Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 23:32:01 (EDT)

    Hello everyone from 196 LIB This is the first time I have posted to this guestbook.I was with C co. 1/46 196(third PLt) Oct,.-Dec.12,1970. Short timer as I was wounded in a minefield Dec.12,1970 along with 3 others-Robert Mooneyham, Austin Oliphant(sgt),Edwin Aultman(ssg) the only others I remember were LT.Frank M.Brosnan and Capt. Knight. I would like to know the others in my platoon. I would like to hear from someone as I have never had any contact with the unit.Pete.... psargent@maine.rr.com
    Peter B. Sargent <psargent@maine.rr.com>
    New Gloucester, ME. USA - Saturday, October 21, 2006 at 22:34:56 (EDT)

    Grunt medic, here is another website for you. http://www.aclassicvoicefilms.com/aclassicvoicemilitaryfilms.htm This one has short videos, many with music from the Nam era (I remember hearing CCR's Who'll stop the rain on one, and that one always takes me back. One of these videos about halfway down the website is from my company when I was in the Nam (1970-1, 196th, 3/21, B Company) but of another platoon. Shows a platoon picture with everyone sitting on like stadium type bleachers. Also, I think at one time there was a picture showing Lurch holding up a 7-ft Monitor Lizard someone had shot. Only Lurch was tall enough to get the darn thing off the ground. Every now and then I look through these to see if there any new ones which might have guys I recognize.
    Doc Crawford <Crawford.Dave@epa.gov>
    Arlington, VA USA - Friday, October 20, 2006 at 10:57:37 (EDT)

    does anybody have any idea how many 196th nam vets there are? it would be interesting to find out
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpg>
    bradenton, USA - Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 18:50:01 (EDT)

    Is there anyone who was there or with 2 friends of mine from basic at Devens that were KIA in Dec.'67, they were with C company 2/1. Their names were Richard Wormdahl, and James Wendolowski. Both were KIA on the same day.
    Dave Kruger <tobydaveatexcite.com>
    Lindenhurst, Il USA - Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 12:18:06 (EDT)

    Nice to see this website. I was stationed at Ft Devens and was waiting in line at the post theater when I happened to see a friend of mine from Indiana also in line. He was a no striper (Pvt E-2) and he was very happy to see me. He had been drafted. We had worked in a steel mill together in Northern Indiana. I had enlisted about a year earlier. We talked of home and I stated I would call on him at his barracts later. When I arrived at his barracts I was amazed at the professionalism these troops displayed. At the time I was only a young buck sergeant (E-5), but when I entered the company area I was given every courtesy. Every sentence was 'Yes Sergeant' 'No Sergeant', even my friend exhibited this behaviour. I then learned that they were being trained as a unit from basic training through advanced infantry training and would be deployed as a unit. The officers and NCOs were to be assigned later. After about 2 hours I left as it was way past lights out. It was soon after that I watched the unit fly out of Devens into harms way. But one thing that I was sure of was that my friend was with some of the most well trained well disiplined soldiers I had seen in my army service. Thank you 196th.
    Dr Michael E. Solan MAJ MC USAR <solanm@hotmail.com>
    San Gwann, EU Malta - Thursday, October 19, 2006 at 04:05:53 (EDT)

    Here's the link http://chu65nang67.us/nam/vietnam.html
    Joe
    USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 01:47:06 (EDT)

    Joe; try (chu65nang67@yahoo.com). I previously posted what I see on the site. I'm a total novice on the PC, first started 2 years ago this month; was necessary as my health "went south" and was confined to home. My Son set me up and taught me what I have retained since he left. I have the 'Vietnam Era (60's, 70's) in my favorites. If this doesn't get you to the 'site' please let me know; we will work something out as I'm sure many would appreciate what is available. I'm doing much better now after several surgeries so don't spend as much time on the PC as I once did. I would ask that you post a clear web address for the site in question if you get there. Thanks! "Out, here".
    'Grunt Medic'
    USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 05:44:29 (EDT)

    http://chu65nang67.us/nam/vietnam.html ?
    Joe
    USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 02:08:03 (EDT)

    Grunt Medic: you forgot the link, but I've been there before, nice site. All the music from the era that means something.I always enjoy your posts.
    Joe
    USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 01:00:11 (EDT)

    Grunt medic: You never did link the site you're talking about.
    Gary Capshaw <kiteria"at"cablerocket.com>
    Denison, TX - Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 00:54:28 (EDT)

    Reference my last post, the Marines served in the mid 60's, please excuse the typo.
    'Grunt Medic' E/C/3/21; 67-68
    USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 00:01:43 (EDT)

    Now that I have sufficiently stirred the pot, I will now present all with something I have found to be useful when taking that stroll thru the memories of VN and that "era". It is a Web Site put together by a couple of Marines who served in the Chu Lai and Da Nnang AO's in the mid-70's. The site has leads to numerous others and has tons of music you probably haven't heard in a 'long time. Hope you go there and enjoy it to the extent possible. Some folks were able to come 'home', put it all behind them and got on with their lives; others did not and others 'could not' as they left their lives in VN. I saw too many of the latter. Take heart tho, American Forces and Allies wasted a whole generation of N. VN males; I hope the word "satire" comes to mind now. Here is the address for the site: . In retrospect, I resent nothing anyone has EVER called me, I've become numb (yes it rhymes with dumb) to the disdane from others. To all, I wish you well. "Out, here"
    'Grunt Medic';Recon &'C'/3/21(67-68)
    USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 23:57:19 (EDT)

    In late August or early September I was coming back to LZ center from a week in the hospital. I had a wallet full of money to go on R&R with. Things were looking up for me. I was on one of the refueling pads on Hawk Hill. There was a man there refueling the choppers as they came in. Inbetween refueling we struck up a conversation. I do not recall exactly what we talked about but I think he ask me about my unit. I was very proud of Recon E 3/21 of the 196th. I was part of it. Anyway, during the conversation the man ask me if I would smoke one with him and I said yes. It was some good shit. Then the slick came in and I headed out. After I got back to Center I was missing my billfold with all my R&R money. I was crushed. Man I was not even going to get an R&R without money. The next day I got word from my LT to go to Hawk Hill because my billfold was turned in. I caught the next bird out and found this Captain. He gave me my billfold and it had every cent in it. Nothing missing. I ask him if I could talk to the guy that turned it in. The Captain said he had already left to go back to the world. I do not even know his name. He was just my brother. Life is good. Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, t USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 23:30:59 (EDT)

    I agree with John on the SNB's. When I got in county and out to the field as squad leader. I was assigned to another squad leader Sergeant Ikiebie for several weeks to learn the ropes of squad leader. Then I was asigned my squad where I learned from the school of hard knocks and from the members of my squad. Everytime we went out on ambush I had coordnates ready to call a fire mission if needed. Just some of the things I learned at the Shake and Bake School. Seems that the company commander tried to have us walking point several days in a row and told him it was not right. He respected my wishes. Our squad was good and maybe the best of the company at the time. My mission in the war was NOT to make more rank, but to not get anyone killed and I did that. I was made supply sargent towards the end of my tour. The top sergeant came to the rear and ask me if I would come back to the field and the co would make me E6. I ask if it was an order or just asking and Top said just asking. I did not want the responsibility of a platoon. Seems that some know it all and I am still learning. I resent anyone calling me a shake and bake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sergeant George Sanders PS: Have not used this title since 1969.
    George Sanders <gsanders@kans.com>
    Stafford, Ks USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 22:29:10 (EDT)

    In another couple of weeks The Gimlet will go to press and then be mailed to members of the Gimlet Association 21st Infantry Regiment, many former 3/21 Gimlets from the Vietnam era. You guys that served in the 3/21 with the 196th in Vietnam ought to consider joining the association as a way of staying connect to your brother Gimlets that you fought with in Vietnam. Contact the association at gimletmail21 "at" yahoo.com No dues, yep it's free.
    Membership Comm
    USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 20:41:39 (EDT)

    grunt medic- we all learned as we went. we learned from everybody in the unit. it was really a very humbling experiance. i know that it was not all fun. i did mine sweeps, walked point,carried m79, carried m60,carried radio for Lt seibert and any other job i was given. i guess it was all part of the learning. when i came back to the states i became a di. in 27 months of service i was an e6 and still learning. i do not regret a thing that i did nor would i change anything. would i do it over? probably. after all i was RA i do not want this to sound critical please do not take it that way. after all we had a lot of LT's that were fresh out of OCS school and did not know what to do . they also learned thru OJT remember we all learn something new everyday
    jim gray d 3/21 and hhc196 67/68 <mrtirejpg>
    bradenton, fl USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 18:12:12 (EDT)

    Jon Burns; My problem with the 'system' was that the knowledge and skill of the OJTs was wasted and time was of the essence. The OJT got the short end of the stick in regards to promotions as well. I may not have walked in your shoes, but I walked much of the same ground as you did. Following my VN 'grunt' experiemce with the 196th, I was Flight Medic with Chu Lai Dust-off for 18 months. Having been 'dusted-off' myself, I thought flying was better than walking AND the air temperature was nice. I had the dubious 'pleasure' of "picking up the pices" of many a mistake and listening to guys screaming about 'a lot of things'. A follow on to that was and extended tour with 1st Field Force Spec Ops and an association with the ROK White Horse Division; it was difficult to believe that the Koreans were once a 'rag tag' army; only after YEARS of training (post Korean War) by the Americam 'dough-boy' did they become the professionals they were. I did not say ALL S&Bs were useless, but most were a 'one trick poney' as few extended (lets get some feed-back on this). Where did you think you were going when you were offered NCOS? S&Bs also took the place of the lifers who found a way to avoid VN or the bush if assigned to VN. Your statements regarding that you 'learned' each step of the way makes my point; my thinking is if an on the job guy was offered a promotion to E-5 or 6, it would have been a hugh incentive for many to 'remain on station' and a time saver in regards to getting 'slots' filled with experienced people. As I said, I just wanted to 'stir the pot',; you may have the spoon now. I miss Missouri, especially the SW. "Out, here".
    'Grunt Medic';Recon &'C'/3/21(67-68)
    USA - Monday, October 16, 2006 at 09:08:16 (EDT)

    I would really like to hear from some of the Lrrps. I have met a few of them. Got to have had a big set to do the thing. Talk to us. Thanks, Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Sunday, October 15, 2006 at 20:49:01 (EDT)

    As a Shake-N-Bake I can say not all showed up thinking we knew everything, I came, I listened, I learned and kept my mouth shut and my eyes and ears open and learned from the old guys....who 80% were E-4's and below. After a few weeks they let me have the reins and I still learned as I went on. Like almost all of the other SNB's, I didn't ask to go, I got orders and went and did the best I could. If you were upset by us being there, you should have walked a few clicks in our boots.....we knew if we screwed up that someone would get hurt, and we kept that at the top of our list. We didn't mind something happening to ourselves....our guys were another matter.....we were scared all the time....mainly that we would screw up and get someone hurt! Maybe you had an asshole of a SNB, but I can bet that was the exception not the rule? I had SNB's come into the company after I was there some 3-5 months and made sure they went by the same rules that I did! I came to A 1/46th after 3 months with the Ranger Company down in Chu Lai, even so...I still had to relearn a whole hell-of-alot cause a Line Company and a Ranger Team do not operate the same in the bush. Maybe you ought to take it easy and not judge all by a few, I know that usually one only saw what their squad/Platoon and company experienced in their tour.....I hope your perception is not the rule as to your feelings of Shake-N-Bakes. Just my 2 cents! Sgt. Jon K. Burns USA Retired
    Jon Burns <jonkburnsatverizon.net>
    Wimberley, TX USA - Sunday, October 15, 2006 at 17:14:52 (EDT)

    Can anyone tell me the value of "shake & bake" officers and NCOs. I never understood the rationale for this concept, peace-time OCS yes, as the 'newby' can gain 'some' experience without killing anybody; sending a 'green' Officer/NCO from school to combat did nothing but cause turmoil in the Plt/Co, especially when they showed up believing they had the answer prior to the question and often rejected the counsel of the E-4/5s who had learned by OJT. What an incentive it would have been for those 'combat tested' E-4s and E-5s to remain on the job if they were given the same opportunity for promotion as the 'shake & bake'. Continuity of the units would have been maintained and, consequently, been more effective. A junior grade officer served at most 6 months in the 'bush' unless they asked to stay (something I never heard of) and when they were just beginning to have a clue---they left. I would venture to say that more Pfcs and Sp4s were promoted to the next grade after being KIA than those who lived thru a full tour. A 'S&B' NCO took the slots that a 'junior grade' had filled up to the time of the formers arrival and in all probability trained the 'newby'. Of the my 20 active duty years, I was assigned to 'combat arms' units 9, (6 Inf & 3 with 155 SP Arty) per my request. School does not impart leadership, it can only enhance what is already there, whereas, in the bush those having the 'trait' showed up and did the job. Just thought I would stir the 'pot'. "Out,here"
    "Grunt Medic"
    USA - Sunday, October 15, 2006 at 12:03:55 (EDT)

    Bob Jasinski, did you know a couple other instant NCO"s who came to A 3/21 about the same time you did? Their names were Grant and Clements. They came in at Nhi Ha right after A Co was hit. Stoney -Third Plt Sgt
    Stoney <jstone10(at)msn.com>
    Lexington, Ne USA - Friday, October 13, 2006 at 21:03:49 (EDT)

    Joe, thanks for the reply. I about fell out my chair. That was so funny man. Glad to know someone has a sense of humor but if you look at it closley you told the truth. I am glad to hear from you brother. Keep it up. Later brothers Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 20:21:48 (EDT)

    I will be getting Commissioned in April and I want my father to do the oath. I wanted to know if there was anyone out there who remembers a 2nd Lt Manuel D. Joglar who served with the 196th in 1967. I am trying to do a bio on his service as a formal introduction but I am having a hard time finding any.
    Javier R. Joglar, STGCS/E-8, USN <jjoglar@wi.rr.com>
    Kenosha, WI USA - Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 14:59:12 (EDT)

    Don't know why, but just for the heck of it, entered 196th light infanty brigade into www.A9.com search engine. Had no idea that I would find this web site. After being drafted and entering Army 8May 1967, did basic training at Fort Knox, KY. AIT at Fort Polk, LA. Leadership School (class #5) at For Benning, GA. Back to Fort Polk, LA as an E5 for OJT. Arrived at Fort Lewis, WA 16 April 1968 for processing to Viet Nam. Some time around the 1st of May arrived with Alpha Company 3/21 196th near the DMZ. My first night was spent outside the perimeter on the side of a bomb crater on OP. The next night we were attacked and those on OP came back over the concertina wire. After about a week, the company saddled up and headed back to battalion where we were choppered South and dropped off on LZ Colt. We then walked off heading in a more western direction for some length of days. When it was our turn, we walked to the top of hill 352 (LZ Center) guarding the perimeter. We opperated in that general area during my tour of Duty. I left country, very early February 1969, leaving the Army 6 February 1969. Today I am looking forward to retirement in about a year. As much as I hated the thought of leaving civian life to serve my country, I have to put things into perspective that this unit became a part of my life. Scanning the entries here, bring back that history and the thought that so many served as I did and returned home. Some that I befriended over there, did not. I will always remember them. I have a cousin whose son attended West Point and was sent to Iraq. He has returned safely home for more training and eventually another tour of duty. Why on a planet of six or so billion people, does a relative small number make life so miserable for so many. I have printed out the news letter and am thinking that joining the Association is something that maybe I should do.
    Bob Jasinski <bob_jatUSA.com>
    Rochester, MI USA - Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 14:09:56 (EDT)

    Roy I saw your comments in the 196th Guest book good to hear another brother still out there. I was with Recon 67-68-69 call sign “Wildchild” I got in country Dec of 69 assigned to Delta but never got there I volunteered to go to a start up recon platoon E 3/21 196th with a lieutenant Perkins (HOG) I was out for awhile after a run in April 13 1968 the back in a month or so. When were you there? I have a picture of us on Center and can email it to you. Lather Brother
    Bill Linnartz <blinnartz"AT"westlakehardware.com>
    CENTERVIEW, MO USA - Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 13:20:48 (EDT)

    " mercenaries", I think I figured my pay once for working as a mercenary 24/7 as about 40 cents an hour. Probably why I changed my line of work.I almost forgot about "the benefits" like being condemned by your country, agent orange disease, early death etc. Gotta remember the benefits.
    Joe
    USA - Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 01:03:27 (EDT)

    Thanks for your comments about the Koreans. I do not know. It was just a story I heard. But if you look at it and think about it, we were mercenaries in a way. I was drafted and I went. I did believe. There is nothing wrong with that, I was ingnorant that is all I was ingornant. I feel like I am much beter now. Maybe not. So, tell me more and I will listen. Thankyou my brother. Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 23:48:56 (EDT)

    The Korean troops in South Vietnam were not mercenaries. They were regular South Korean Army divisions whose government the Johnson administration essentially paid to be there, hence the old story that they were mercenaries.
    Gary Capshaw <kiteria@cablerocket.com>
    Denison, TX USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 23:33:36 (EDT)

    I did some research today. Yes the Koreans were in Nam. They were the second largest force there. One was called White Hore, the second was Tiger, and the third was Blue Dragon. They were mercenairies. I was never around them and I do not know how they fought. I believe what I heard was probably right. Anyway, I found excerpts from interviews with the Koreans. They are not happy about not being mentioned in our history. I really can't believe we diss them so bad. They are our brothers in arms. Am I wrong? I heard several stories about how fierce they were. I was touched by the interviews on the men from Korea. Just look up White Horse Korean mercenaries. That is what I looked up. They had 350,000 men there in the years Nam was going on. Give me some feedback. Later brothers, Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 20:26:04 (EDT)

    "Andy," from Maine, was with 196th then went to Wolfhounds, I lost your e-mail address, when I was trying to change my password. Send me one, so I can re-build my address list. Denny
    Dennis Passwater <passwater_dennis@yahoo.com>
    Roseville, OH USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 15:44:16 (EDT)

    To John re Cpt. Conley, B Co. CO, 2/1 Mar 68: I remember him well. I was a radio operator in the 2/1 TOC, and then the NCOIC of the TOC. Cpt. Conley often was in the TOC when his company was rotated back to LZ Ross.He was definitely hardcore -- his favorite story for a while concerned the 12 gauge that he carried and an NVA that was in the wrong place during a B Co. ambush.He repeatedly tried to recruit me out to the field as a B Co. radio operator, and he was contemptuous about my refusal to give up my cot, cooler with beer, and day job.
    John Ellis <johnrellis@mac.com>
    Seattle, WA USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2006 at 00:39:57 (EDT)

    Here is another story that I recall and would like some feedback brothers. There was a group of men that served in Nam that were from South Korea. I think they called them the White Horse. They were mercenairies that were paid for each individual head that was brought in. I know that is gross but this is just a story I heard. Is it true? I really do not know. Give me some feedback brothers. I know you have it. I will be back again. Thankyou my brothers. Roy
    Roy G. Stephens <grddlyman@ hughes.net>
    Silsbee, Tx USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2006 at 22:15:34 (EDT)

    A few weeks ago I posted a story about a man named Snag. With the help of my brothers