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Posted by: Jim Armstrong Date Posted: August 27th, 2012, 11:07pm
I looked a couple of times at the "sitrepvietnam" linked above.  
I guess it is about reenactment, but I can't figure out what they do or why they do it.
How did the 196th get involved?
Do any Vietnam vets participate?
What answers anyone has would be appreciated here or perhaps on a new thread.
Posted by: Eddie"Duke"Ellington Date Posted: August 27th, 2012, 5:52pm
I was with Alpha 3/21 during this time. I personly new most everyone involved. I was in the 95th Evac Hospital in Da Nang when this incident happened so I am not one for Burns to talk to. Everytime I read the account of "no hot baths or hot food" it makes me sick, we hardly ever saw hot food except "hot A's" once in a great while. Hot baths what a joke, maybe when we came into the rear for a stand down, every 90 to 120 days or so in Chu Lai. I think most of the 11B's will understand what I am talking about. I wish I could remember names but as most of you know names are lost to most of us.  I remember there was nothing to be ashamed of and if the true account is reported in the documentary I think most will agree. I am proud to have served with Alpha Co. 3rd Bn. 21st Inf. and the men in it.
Posted by: Jack Krohn Date Posted: August 26th, 2012, 9:05pm
Posted by: Jim Armstrong Date Posted: August 26th, 2012, 4:37pm
I think Ken's point is right on.
If you were there, don't participate in the filming and then don't like the result, you will have only yourself to blame.

In general, I have liked Burns' work and look forward to seeing this production.
Posted by: Ken McKenzie, C, 4-31 Date Posted: August 26th, 2012, 12:21pm
Believe me, I recognized that the dates and unit they wanted to talk to were related to this incident. I told them that it might be difficult to get people to talk if it appeared they were trying to sensationalize the issue.
They assured me that they simply wanted to examine the incident and report the truth.
I didn't see a problem with putting their request in the newsletter or on the website, and tried to make it clear that the 196th Association was neither recommending nor trying to keep people from being interviewed.
Maybe the truth of the incident should be told from the point of view of those that participated.
I think Ken Burns would probably not sensationalize it, but that's just my opinion.
Posted by: Gregory B Peters Date Posted: August 25th, 2012, 5:08pm

I don't know Jack, was it a bad memory or a bad account?  The paragraph below is from another perspective.  There were times when we all bitched and groused about having to get moving again, did these two reporters take liberty with that?  We kept moving and so did A company!  The fact that they didn't go arm in arm and whistling the theme song from "Bridge Over the River Kwai" is another matter :-)
So was there ever a problem or just a sensationalized news report.  That will depend on Ken Burns and who he wants to do a hatchet job on........



In its issue of September 8, 1969, Time magazine accused Faas and Arnett of shoddy journalism: “Neither Faas nor Arnett saw or spoke to anyone in Alpha first hand … their report was plainly exaggerated.”

If that’s true, it wouldn’t be the last example of questionable journalism from Arnett. In March 2003, Arnett was the last journalist in Baghdad still reporting for an American netw ...
Posted by: Jack Krohn Date Posted: August 25th, 2012, 2:59pm
Heads Up - A 3/21
Historical Documentary film maker, Ken Burns
is producing a documentary on the Vietnam War

In particular he is trying to talk with guys that were in A3/21 during the "field refusal" in Aug69 when Capt.Shirtz was the company CO.

do we really want him to drag this bad memory through the mud?
I was in A3/21 in 1971. But I'm not to keen on having our company's memory treated this way

http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/bravo1bn20vietnam/24aug.html

from the current 196th newsletter


http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2011/ken-burns-vietnam/

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/03/28/ken-burns-vietnam-pbs/

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