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196th LIB Reunion in Seattle (currently 1 views) |
Frenchie |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 3:55am |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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I want everyone to know that a great time was had by all at the Reunion. It was pure magic. Food was great. Most of the time there were groups at the Hospitality room and i spent tons of time there getting reunited with my guys. We had one man that drove from MN and i didnt know he would be there so it was a HUGE BONUS for us. I had a lot of "ohhhh youre Frenchie" greetings...one of our Lt's came for the first time also... the best part was the "Brotherhood" ...i tell people that on the last day when we had to leave, it was TOUGH...i didnt want to leave but we, as best we can, are committed for the last week end of July 2013 to meet again in D.C Met Fletch is a great guy and the real deal!!! also met boat people of our unit...and the active duty people at the banquet looked fantastic in their uniforms....made us proud to be 196th Chargers!!
Did we EVER look this good?
from left to right Larry Howard, Richard Martinez, Lt Udo Schulz and John Kucheska
Mnt St Helen(?) IMG]http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz106/anamrats/july%202011%20Seattle%20Reunion%20-%20196th%20LIB/IMG_0137.jpg[/IMG]
Our ride back on the crop duster
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Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69 |
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Fletchw2zero |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 4:56am |
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Hey Frenchie!! In answer to your question.......... Hell no, I never looked that good even on my best day!
You caught a pic of Lou Efta, me (flashin some peace) and Andrew, all B Company 4/31. Andrew was and is an original and a most engaging gentleman in every sense of the word.
I spent so much time babbling and listening that I forgot to take pictures. |
Fletch
Co B 4/31 May through November 69
C Btry 1/82 Arty Nov 69 thru April-ish 70 radio handle whiskey two zero
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Frenchie |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 5:02am |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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Im not surprised that you got caught up in the moment!!! it was electrifying....found another pic of you ill email you soon... im glad i got your guys with you in the same picture... |
Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69 |
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Bob Kotch |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 8:33pm |
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Frenchie, great pictures! Hope you have more to share with us. Sounds like you all had a really good time, and that's the way it should be. I just have to make to DC! |
HHC, MP Plt. 9-67 through 9-68 |
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Bob Kotch |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 8:52pm |
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Hey Fletch. I don't think many of us ever looked as good as those active duty guys did at the reunion! Very impressive! It definitely makes you proud to be a 196th Charger. The only uniforms I had were fatigues and class A, and I very rarely wore the class A uniform. Really though, all you guys look great! Can't wait to see more pics. |
HHC, MP Plt. 9-67 through 9-68 |
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Frenchie |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 8:54pm |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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I have a bunch more pictures but mostly of my guys and their spouses. If interested let me know by email. Ill take care of it. Several of the people attending the banquet.
The reunion (my first 196th) is hard to explain to someone who has never been. It certainly is not a drunkfest...booze is available. The best way i can describe it is that the brotherhood is alive and well and that is what it is about. Little groups of various units were everywhere at the hospitality room chatting and exchanging stories and expressing their personal issues (nothing formal)...
I do recommend that we ALL make that BIG effort for 2013 and show up. Im told by reliable sources that east coast reunions are VERY well attended. I know im looking forward to it. |
Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69 |
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Fletchw2zero |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 11:19pm |
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I was at the Gettysburg reunion back in 98 or 2000 or some such. The turnout was huge to say the least. 18+ from B company and a lot of them were my tour and even third platoon......BONUS!!
I will definitely save up for another one since the $$$ just weren't there for this one. If not for it being 40 miles away there isn't any way I could have showed. Building a house is eating all my savings for now. |
Fletch
Co B 4/31 May through November 69
C Btry 1/82 Arty Nov 69 thru April-ish 70 radio handle whiskey two zero
Craig Fletcher |
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Frenchie |
Posted on: August 1st, 2011, 11:38pm |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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I know it sounds cliche but there was magic in the air!!!
hey Fletch here is your bonus picture...
and a picture of our 196th Association -Warren Neill
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Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69 |
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Gregory B Peters |
Posted on: August 19th, 2011, 11:06pm |
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Maximum Member2 B company, 3/21/196th, incountry 07/1966-07/1967
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WOW neat pictures. Thanks for sharing. And just as I thought, everyone is a short fat old balding man with hearing aides. Take your hats off Fletch and Warren :-) And Fletch has to be the oldest hippy, flashing the peace sign and carrying a man purse.
IN the second picture portraying the active soldiers, that Sgt. Major in the middle has been to a couple of rodeos! he needs another chest for all his ribbons and it looks like two stars on his CIB. Have all the soldiers serving since Vietnam, like in Desert Storm and up to now also been earning CIB's? Or does one only earn them in a sanctioned war as determined by congress and the Pres? I notice the other Sgt. and officers do not have CIBs?
Most of you were lucky and went home and got out. I still had a year left so went to the Third Herd at Ft Meyer, so we had to wear the old fancy wool blue suits with gold pippings all over. But still had to wear the old saucer and cunt hats. Not the neat berets and cavalry hats of today. I wonder given our mission and outfit as a light infantry, but air mobile, would we wear the beret or the cool cavalry hat. Had a short stint in a smokey bear hat, but the new cavalry hats are really cool!
Nor did I know we had so many celebrities, I see Maude's husband second from the left in the third picture. And Rick Flair scooting behind Warren.
I have been waiting for news from those that took the trip back to Nam. How did that go and when do we see pics? Someone told me that Nui Ba Din is a tourist trap with gondola rides to the top and souviner boothes all around the bottom. The same with the tunnels we found in the triangle and Boloi Woods.
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Frenchie |
Posted on: August 19th, 2011, 11:42pm |
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Maximum Member2 LIke to hear from anyone that was Co C 4/31
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WOW neat pictures. Thanks for sharing. And just as I thought, everyone is a short fat old balding man with hearing aides. Take your hats off Fletch and Warren :-) And Fletch has to be the oldest hippy, flashing the peace sign and carrying a man purse.
IN the second picture portraying the active soldiers, that Sgt. Major in the middle has been to a couple of rodeos! he needs another chest for all his ribbons and it looks like two stars on his CIB. Have all the soldiers serving since Vietnam, like in Desert Storm and up to now also been earning CIB's? Or does one only earn them in a sanctioned war as determined by congress and the Pres? I notice the other Sgt. and officers do not have CIBs?
Most of you were lucky and went home and got out. I still had a year left so went to the Third Herd at Ft Meyer, so we had to wear the old fancy wool blue suits with gold pippings all over. But still had to wear the old saucer and cunt hats. Not the neat berets and cavalry hats of today. I wonder given our mission and outfit as a light infantry, but air mobile, would we wear the beret or the cool cavalry hat. Had a short stint in a smokey bear hat, but the new cavalry hats are really cool!
Nor did I know we had so many celebrities, I see Maude's husband second from the left in the third picture. And Rick Flair scooting behind Warren.
I have been waiting for news from those that took the trip back to Nam. How did that go and when do we see pics? Someone told me that Nui Ba Din is a tourist trap with gondola rides to the top and souviner boothes all around the bottom. The same with the tunnels we found in the triangle and Boloi Woods.
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hey Greg......youre right on but i have all my hair...does it count? two hearing aids here. The active duty guys look like russian generals....row after row after row of medals earned. have no fear i was not done when i got back....i turned down extending one month which (they swore) would wipe out my 6 months active duty left. I said noooo...so they shipped to Ft Dix and baby sit some hardcore guys from the eastern cities. They survived...lol. I didnt have to do DI school ...but i had to tuck in the soldiers at night and wake them up gentlyyyyyyy at the crack of dawn......
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Frenchie - Gilbert E Manasselian C 4/31 Feb 68 to Feb 69 |
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Fletchw2zero |
Posted on: August 20th, 2011, 4:59am |
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Man purse indeed! That is a leather backpack and it was accused of being an NVA backpack at Gettysburg..... I'm just too damned fat to saddle up and put both arms through the pack straps.
I am so glad that this reunion was close to my home since I can't afford to travel much. It was really a boost to me to meet with four guys that were in the bush with me. Plus met up with some more of the outstanding guys that were in B co in different eras. Finally, met a bunch more very engaging fellow 196ers. Here's hoping that my finances will launch me to another reunion before too very long. Had a great time and even met up with a bunch of heroes.
You may remember seeing a tall fellow wearing a white straw Panama hat and a pony tail. He was a medic and a hell of a character too. When Frank Eates got shot in the leg, doc was patching him up and got shot in the eye. Doc managed to bandage his eye and then finished up bandaging Frank so he could be medevaced. |
Fletch
Co B 4/31 May through November 69
C Btry 1/82 Arty Nov 69 thru April-ish 70 radio handle whiskey two zero
Craig Fletcher |
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Bob Kotch |
Posted on: August 20th, 2011, 4:05pm |
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Greg, I believe the infantry guys serving in the conflicts since Nam have been earning CIB's if they were in combat situations. Earlier this year I read a book, My War, if I remember correctly, written by an Iraq war vet and he talked about the guys in his unit earning CIB's. |
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Eddie Johns |
Posted on: August 21st, 2011, 10:47am |
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They are awarded Purple Hearts also. |
Eddie Johns C3/21 6/70-3/71 |
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Gregory B Peters |
Posted on: August 21st, 2011, 11:03pm |
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Maximum Member2 B company, 3/21/196th, incountry 07/1966-07/1967
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Right on Bob, I forgot to check good ole Wikipedia:-) you had to be a Col. and below with an infantry MOS or Special Forces. So the Sgt. Major could of got his three in any number of places. Looks like if we had continued on to Santo Domingo we would have got one there first, and then Vietnam second!
f. Second and third awards of the CIB are indicated by superimposing 1 and 2 stars respectively, centered at the top of the badge between the points of the oak wreath. To date, a separate award of the CIB has been authorized for qualified Soldiers in the following qualifying periods:
(1) World War II (7 December 1941 to 3 September 1945).
(2) The Korean Conflict (27 June 1950 to 27 July 1953).
(3) The Republic of Vietnam Conflict. Service in the Republic of Vietnam Conflict (2 March 1961 to 28 March 1973) combined with qualifying service in Laos; Dominican Republic; Korea on the DMZ; El Salvador; Grenada; Joint Security Area, Panmunjom, Korea; Panama; Southwest Asia Conflict; and Somalia, regardless of whether a Soldier has served one or multiple tours in any or all of these areas. The Republic of Vietnam Conflict Era officially terminated on 10 March 1995.
(4) War on Terrorism (Afghanistan, Operation ENDURING FREEDOM) and (Iraq, Operation IRAQI FREEDOM).
g. Subsequent awards of the CIB are not authorized for the same qualifying period, as outlined above. The CIB may be awarded by the following individuals:
(1) Current awards. These awards may be awarded by USA HRC, ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A and Army commanders in the grade of 0-6 and above.
(2) Retroactive awards of the CIB. These awards may be awarded by USA HRC, ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A to active duty Soldiers and Reserve Component Soldiers. Applications for retroactive award will be forwarded through command channels to USA HRC, ATTN: AHRC-PDP-A, Alexandria, VA 22332-0471. Retirees and veterans should address their application to the National Personnel Records Center, St. Louis, MO 63132-5100. Retroactive award of the CIB is authorized for time periods specified above to fully qualified individuals. Such awards will not be made except where evidence of injustice is presented. |
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Ken McKenzie, C, 4-31 |
Posted on: August 22nd, 2011, 12:31pm |
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Greg, This is a link to our photos from our April 2010 trip back to Vietnam. There is another group I know about that is over there right now (I believe). If they send me photos, or a link, I'll post it and put something in the next newsletter.. http://www.exxelsys.com/Vietnam.html |
Ken McKenzie C-4/31, 196th LIB, 1965-1967 C-1/5(MECH), 25thID, 1967 |
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