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dan6
Posted on: June 28th, 2011, 2:42am Quote Report to Moderator
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The 196th was in a mager battle that allmost wiped them out and a movie was made of this battle does anyone know the name of this movie.
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Posted on: June 28th, 2011, 4:49pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from dan6, posted June 28th, 2011, 2:42am at here
The 196th was in a mager battle that allmost wiped them out and a movie was made of this battle does anyone know the name of this movie.
Thank you
dan6


Dan,  An old timer (11B) told our google group that he doubts there was such a battle or movie...i tend to lean that way unless you can give us more details such as a time frame and where this happened.
Perhaps youre talking about an individual unit (company size) rather than the Brigade (196th).  Even then im not familiar with such a movie...


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Bob Kotch
Posted on: June 28th, 2011, 5:25pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Dan, I don't think this ever happened at the Brigade level.  Maybe, as Frenchie mentioned, you're thinking about  a Co. size unit.  Some of these were in pretty heavy firefights.

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namvet382
Posted on: June 29th, 2011, 4:41am Quote Report to Moderator
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Wasn't there a big battle in 67 in the Valley  in front of LZ center Arty and Lz West in 67where a lot of troops were killed, Arvns also? Isn't that why 3/21 named D Co Black Death after their fallen C.O.? May be wrong.

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joemahoney
Posted on: June 30th, 2011, 5:51pm Quote Report to Moderator
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From the Casualty Logs

May 1968     83 KIA     33 from 3/21 and 26 from the 2/1 and 17 from 4/31
                                and 5 from F Troop 1 from 82 A and 1 BDE

Jan 1968     76 KIA     39 from 3/21 and 26 from 2/1  7 from 4/31  3 from 82,  1 BDE

 Aug 1969     67 KIA     38 from 4/31 and 23 from 3/21 (plus others)

 Feb 1968     50 KIA     26 from 2/1 and 8 from 4/31  7 from F troop (plus others)

March 1969    47 KIA     21 from 3/21 and 18 from 2/1 (plus others)

These numbers can be a little off because it’s hard to identify some of the casualty dates.


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Frenchie
Posted on: July 1st, 2011, 1:41pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from dan6, posted June 28th, 2011, 2:42am at here
The 196th was in a mager battle that allmost wiped them out and a movie was made of this battle does anyone know the name of this movie.
Thank you
dan6


Dan:
Wondering if you have additional inf. or if you figured out the name of the movie you were asking about.

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Gregory B Peters
Posted on: July 2nd, 2011, 9:51pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Dan, here is a pretty good list to peruse for a memory jog.
http://srufaculty.sru.edu/derrick.pitard/vietnamfilms.htm   or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Vietnam_War_films


Plus, didn't they make a TV movie, about firebase Mary Ann?  When we first got there we did Attleborro, Cedar Falls and Junction city, all of which were the largest involvements at the time.  I don't remember much after that involving the whole Americal or 196th.  From the beginning we had a black cloud over our heads during our large movements seems we were always where we shouldn't be, like in the middle of everything!   I wonder if we didn't have the ignominy of having more commanders and leaders relieved of duty than any other outfit?
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Fletchw2zero
Posted on: July 3rd, 2011, 2:31am Quote Report to Moderator
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Try "Tour of Duty"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATV59cDHlqs

Yup, that's a 196th patch.

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C Btry 1/82 Arty  Nov 69 thru April-ish 70 radio handle whiskey two zero

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Gregory B Peters
Posted on: July 3rd, 2011, 9:23pm Quote Report to Moderator
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wow, 1987-1990, I don't remember ever watching it?  i must have still been lost :-)
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Fletchw2zero
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I think my wife watched it sometimes but my shields would go up & I'd blank out any time it was on so I never saw an episode.

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Jim Gray
Posted on: July 3rd, 2011, 10:34pm Quote Report to Moderator
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it was a fairly good show. as most shows go it was really realistic. my kids liked it because they saw my 196th patch
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Fletchw2zero
Posted on: July 4th, 2011, 3:12am Quote Report to Moderator
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it was a fairly good show. as most shows go it was really realistic


Precisely why I couldn't watch it at the time.  Not that I would have realized or admitted it at the time.

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Lloyd Martin C 3-82 68
Posted on: July 4th, 2011, 11:37am Quote Report to Moderator
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Terance Knox, Actor who played the SGTin Tour of Duty was at Buffalo reunion and I believe will also be at the Seattle runion along with another actor joining him this time.

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Tom Pozdol
Posted on: July 5th, 2011, 9:26am Quote Report to Moderator
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Other than the TV program, I don't recall a movie being made about the 196th, but there should be one made. There is no shortage of good stories or plot lines.
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Posted on: July 5th, 2011, 1:33pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Tom Pozdol, posted July 5th, 2011, 9:26am at here
Other than the TV program, I don't recall a movie being made about the 196th, but there should be one made. There is no shortage of good stories or plot lines.


I dont think the public wants to hear about the 196th LIB ..they have been brainwashed into being groupies of the Marines, 1st Air Cav and any airborne unit and now of course the Navy Seals and Delta Force or whatever their counterparts are known as.
Now if it is a negative story then yes.....theyll beat each other up to do it.
Just my 10 cent worth (inflation).

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