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Joe Greear
Posted on: December 31st, 2010, 6:31pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Jim,
    Thanks for the research. RTO James Blevins was also a good friend, went through Basic and AIT with him. Another good friend was also KIA the same day (Walter Myers) from Conn. John Bates was correct about the 155 short round.

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Jim Armstrong
Posted on: January 2nd, 2011, 10:29pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I know things were pretty confusing during that period of Attleboro and know of my own experience of friendly fire incidents that were never admitted as such.
Joe:  Do you have any idea why the three men should have different dates of death?
Was the short 155 round common knowledge?

Jim Armstrong
C, HQ, A 2/1
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Larry D Mcknight
Posted on: January 2nd, 2011, 11:30pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Jim if you remember one of our first kia was from a 155 short round. The morning of Sept 19, 66 a very good friend from B 2/1 was hit with a short round. His name was Ronald Taylor, I believe there were 2 others to. If I remember it was called clearing the perimetor.

Larry D. Mcknight
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Jim Armstrong
Posted on: January 3rd, 2011, 1:22am Quote Report to Moderator
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Larry:  I don't have a clear sense of which of the many types of artillery were more or less guilty of misfires, azimuth problems, etc.
I am not even sure if the brigade itself (3/82nd) had anything but 105's.
In this case I was more curious if SST Frankel's platoon, company and/or batallion were aware at the time or soon after of the cause of his death.
His posting under the wrong unit for all these years raises a little suspicion in this old man's mind.

Jim Armstrong
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Joe Greear
Posted on: January 3rd, 2011, 1:42am Quote Report to Moderator
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Jim,
    I have no idea why they would have the wrong date Blevins and Myers was KIA. SSGT Frankel, Blevins and Myers were all 3 KIA on 11-4-66. As a matter of fact, Blevins was right next to SSGT Frankel when they were KIA. I am not sure if it was a 155 or 105 shortie. It was called in by the battalion Co. of th 1/27, 25th Div. Major Meloy. We were being assaulted by NVA & VC  (Human wave) numbering over 100 the first assault, and less than that the next 2 times. my company C/3/21 & A/1/27
were linked and caught the brunt of the attacks. SSGT Frankel called for a cease fire after the first attack and then when the 2nd one came they called the artillary in again and it was landing right on us. It would take me forever to recount everything that happened that day.     Joe G.
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Joe
Posted on: January 3rd, 2011, 6:43pm Quote Report to Moderator
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Larry, Ronnny White was taken out by an air burst.  The night before we had had a def con set up *a 360 ring of steel in the event of an ememy night atttack.  The next morning the 19th, allegedly/supposedly weather balloons had not been sent up, which was supposed to have happened, since there was supposed to be an atrillery barrage before we moved out, in the event any enemy positions had been established .  The first KIA of 2/1 was David Gregory and the first WIA was Sgt Fitting, both byy AK 47 ON 10/31/66.  Ron's death hurt us all greatly, because it never shoulod have happened.  He had stopped by my position just several minutes before looking for some coffee.  We had not made any yet, so he said he had passed some guys that already had and would head back to them.  Shortly, thereafter, that was an expolsion the sky lit up, like  lighting bolt blast, we hit the ground, by the time we got to him, he only uttered a gurgle, there was a hole in his forehead where a piece of metal had impacted.  I.e., friendly fire/misadventure would not be acknowledged by the Military until over ten years later. He hailed from MKt. Gilead, Ohio, if you or anyone else knows where he is buried, I would appreciate thyat information.  Thanks and be well.  Joe

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Posted on: May 5th, 2011, 9:54pm Quote Report to Moderator
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I was looking over the Forum site and ran a cross the above POST. I do not know who this JOE is but his facts are incorrect.
Fact: Ronnie Taylor was the first man KIA in the 2/1 (9/19/66 0700). They fired 3 rounds of H&I on the wood line, first round on target, second round in the middle of rice paddy, and the third round on our positions. We were watching the wood line and ready to move out. We saw the first round hit. The idea was to give us “cover” as we moved across the paddy. We could hear the second round was going to be short and we all scattered. The third round was not an air burst, landed in the mud next to Ronnie. He was the only one killed but there were a few wounded.  Jerry Downs from A Company was killed later the same day. For the record Ron White was our medic (B2/1, 3 platoon) and the first one to Ronnie. David Gregory was KIA on 10/31/66; he was also from B Company 2/1.


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